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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    what prevents oil owning countries from this? i realize most dont manufacture everything they use, but with the wealth and workforce available, is it not an option rather than necessity?
    Manufacturing is the tricky one. A country would need access within their own borders to all raw materials needed for manufacturing. They also need a marketplace to consume those goods at a rate that allows people to remain employed and business to be profitable. You could make and consume disposable pens easily within a country's borders. Durable goods like washer/dryers and kitchen ovens would be a different story.
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    im up in the mid 20s here on the island and even then its still tough to make ends meet. You really need to be up in the 30-40+/hr range to live in a modest house and be able to save for retirement...standard of living here is through the roof.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Originally Posted by yage202
    What do we tell the non-ignorant, legitimate user of welfare?

    To stop being a drain on society and a dependent.
    Most of the users of welfare are temporarily on it.

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    How did we ever survive before welfare?
    We did just fine and would probably continue to do fine, but the optics of ending welfare and the then continuous news stories that will appear about destitute people makes this point politically unviable.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by yage202 Click here to enlarge
    Most of the users of welfare are temporarily on it.
    I'd like to see the stats and how much welfare drain there is from people staying on longer than they shuld be.

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    but the optics of ending welfare and the then continuous news stories that will appear about destitute people makes this point politically unviable.
    Well when you create a dependency class you somewhat reap what you sow.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I'd like to see the stats and how much welfare drain there is from people staying on longer than they shuld be.
    This data is available, but the government has a bunch of programs that are considered welfare "(Welfare is the organized public or private social services for the assistance of disadvantaged groups. Aid could include general Welfare payments, health care through Medicaid, food stamps, special payments for pregnant women and young mothers, and federal and state housing benefits..)".

    Since Clinton there is a lifetime welfare benefit, but food stamps and housing assistance have no time limits, but you must stay qualified. In addition, government welfare to non-needy groups,for instance, tax breaks to oil companies, corporate bailouts, tariffs, etc...... seem to be perpetual.

    Here is what I found for just the Aid to Families with Dependent Children

    Average Time on AFCD


    Time on AFDC Percent of Recipients
    Less than 7 months 19%
    7 to 12 months 15.2%
    1 to 2 years 19.3%
    2 to 5 years 26.9%
    Over 5 years 19.6%

    Looks like a third are off in 1 year and half are off of assistance in 2 years.

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    Corporate welfare as well as subsidies (corn anyone?) can be eliminated very easily. But then that would require politicians that aren't in the pockets of the corporations which receive the welfare.

    the whole system is $#@!ed up. Wake me up for the revolution.
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