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    Sleeved S65

    Did anyone sleeve S65? Using sleeves will reduce displacement. A 4.4L stroker may be used to keep displacement at around 4.0 to 4.1L. Anyone sleeved S65 yet?
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    VAC Motorsports has done it, here's an article they wrote July last year about sleeving & it has pics of an S65 sleeved: http://www.vacmotorsports.com/blog/tag/s65/
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    Why would sleeving the engine reduce displacement? Why wouldnt you bore the sleeves to stock bore?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
    Did anyone sleeve S65? Using sleeves will reduce displacement. A 4.4L stroker may be used to keep displacement at around 4.0 to 4.1L. Anyone sleeved S65 yet?
    It depends on the bore you can increase it further than you can with the stock block with sleeves.

    And ya I have a sleeved S65 and VAC has done sleeved S65's. So... what's your question?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Why would sleeving the engine reduce displacement? Why wouldnt you bore the sleeves to stock bore?
    For rebuilds. Plus more material will make the cylinders stronger. The difference in 1mm here or there is negligible there isn't much room to work with on the bore anyway. Any real increase will come from stroke.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It depends on the bore you can increase it further than you can with the stock block with sleeves.

    And ya I have a sleeved S65 and VAC has done sleeved S65's. So... what's your question?
    to increase rigidity of the block you need to use thicker sleeves. thicker sleeves will reduce bore hence reduce displacement.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
    to increase rigidity of the block you need to use thicker sleeves. thicker sleeves will reduce bore hence reduce displacement.
    Ok, and? The displacement reduction with a 1mm thicker sleeve is basically not even worth mentioning. So what?

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    Pics mert?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
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    how many people have actually done it? I know the motor that VAC build is for a race car and there is one guy who has done it for his ess car.. anyone else?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
    how many people have actually done it? I know the motor that VAC build is for a race car and there is one guy who has done it for his ess car.. anyone else?
    Just a small handful.

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    thats what I figured, for the cost of it, I rather just slap on a Supercharger and call it a day

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
    thats what I figured, for the cost of it, I rather just slap on a Supercharger and call it a day
    I'm sure some people are content doing that with the S54 as well, others aren't.

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    You can't fix stupid!! There are so many people that have no clue what they are talking about and should just keep collecting their allowance from mommy and daddy and call it a day!! I deal with them all day every day! It's great.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
    how many people have actually done it? I know the motor that VAC build is for a race car and there is one guy who has done it for his ess car.. anyone else?
    Every Gintani Stage 3 (built motor) car gets sleeves, so there's like 4 there. And I'm sure there a few people who aren't on the forums that have had it done. It's really unnecessary unless you're building a motor for a track/hill climb car that'll see lots of high RPM abuse or a high boost, built motor supercharged car
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Every Gintani Stage 3 (built motor) car gets sleeves, so there's like 4 there. And I'm sure there a few people who aren't on the forums that have had it done. It's really unnecessary unless you're building a motor for a track/hill climb car that'll see lots of high RPM abuse or a high boost, built motor supercharged car
    If you don't sleeve it you basically just leave it around 13 psi and call it a day. But you will only make a little bit more HP than stock with lower compression pistons and honestly you can probably match it with the stock compression and stock pistons.

    If you want to take it to the next level, sleeves, headstuds, and all the other associated stuff is necessary.

    6XX rwhp for the ESS built motor setups tells you what you need to know.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If you don't sleeve it you basically just leave it around 13 psi and call it a day. But you will only make a little bit more HP than stock with lower compression pistons and honestly you can probably match it with the stock compression and stock pistons.

    If you want to take it to the next level, sleeves, headstuds, and all the other associated stuff is necessary.

    6XX rwhp for the ESS built motor setups tells you what you need to know.
    Said it in the Gintani S65 thread...
    The only difference between ESS & Gintani is while Gintani continues to push the envelope, ESS is "content" with what they're currently offering.
    Gintani only has a bad "rep" because of the fanboy $#@! they had to deal with on the other forum, but the reality is that Gintani is the way to go for people looking to get the most out of their S65
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Gintani only has a bad "rep" because of the fanboy $#@! they had to deal with on the other forum, but the reality is that Gintani is the way to go for people looking to get the most out of their S65
    They don't have a bad rep. If people wan to criticize because they are doing something more than just running the same blower with a little more boost and actually pushing a platform well those people are morons.

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    "bad rep" = all the $#@! they've had to put up with and claims about their "irresponsible tuning". Also doesn't help when you have 2/3rds of the forum $#@!ting on anything non-ESS
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    "bad rep" = all the $#@! they've had to put up with and claims about their "irresponsible tuning". Also doesn't help when you have 2/3rds of the forum $#@!ting on anything non-ESS
    Exactly. Either worship the cult or you will get burned at the stake. I couldn't take it any longer. Hence here we are.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Hence here we are.
    And for the better, so thank you. Cause otherwise I'd be stuck with that other place Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    And for the better, so thank you. Cause otherwise I'd be stuck with that other place Click here to enlarge
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