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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    what most people? i know of 1 e85 station, and its across a bridge.. or another 2 hours north, and I live around the largest cities on the eastern seaboard.. maybe you havent heard, but E85 is great, but nowhere near readily available.. oh i forgot, now we have to order fuel and store it at home because we own an n54.. thats logical.. because everyone has storage space for 55gal drums of fuel..



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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    What a joke. Who the hell drops 6k and then tunes on 91. Its just plain stupid. I cant wait to spend thousands and then see the MINIMUM my setup can do. I am sorry if you cant figure out how to order the proper fuel for your car. That's a you problem and really shouldn't reflect the performance of a purpose built big turbo kit. Lol. On 91 we are talking 470-550whp. Does it really make a difference at that point when you could do 700+ on E85 or meth. Man, I got the highest producing 91 octane tune, sweet bro! Its like who is the smartest retard here.
    people who daily on 91 but race on other?.. you know there's 800+whp 91 cars right?

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    $#@! all this 91, 93, race gas, e85, meth talk I just wanna know what it will put down on 87...Click here to enlarge

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    91 may be far from ideal but lots of people need to run it between trips to the track. IMO under-turboed cars are even more sensitive to octane than cars with nice big turbos. In the midrange big turbos like this may not make a bit more power than RBs on 91 (or any other fuel) but I'm certain you'll see a big difference at high rpm, even on just 91 octane. The too-small turbos help create the need for so much octane due to inefficiency.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    what most people? i know of 1 e85 station, and its across a bridge.. or another 2 hours north, and I live around the largest cities on the eastern seaboard.. maybe you havent heard, but E85 is great, but nowhere near readily available.. oh i forgot, now we have to order fuel and store it at home because we own an n54.. thats logical.. because everyone has storage space for 55gal drums of fuel..
    I is worth mentioning not everyone lives in the US, in EU we have E85 pretty much everywhere, I live in Sweden and every gas station has e85, _everyone_ its the law. So I am assuming there is a fairly large base of customers waiting for the day this platform runs flawless on 100% E85 and upgraded twins.

    I did love meth on my 335i but agree it is a hassle I rather be without if possible, but if it gives me 25% more hp I would still do it even for daily driving.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw335iguy Click here to enlarge
    $#@! all this 91, 93, race gas, e85, meth talk I just wanna know what it will put down on 87...Click here to enlarge
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    Awesome progress. Can't wait to see this running!!

    And lol at the meth junkies here. Of course there's potential left on the table if one "only" runs straight pump gas. But reference dyno numbers have to be just that: hp with pump gas. That's the baseline for any tuner, hardware or software. No serious tuner should advertise bloated numbers which can only be achieved with some kind of band-aid (and that's what meth is on this platform even though some won't admit it).

    Then, if the customer desires it, special maps can be done for E85/meth/race gas etc. But those are not real-life numbers in my book. Real-life numbers are those which I can achieve any day, every day under any given circumstances (ok obviously turbo cars benefit from colder outside temps. But that's it).

    As some have a hard time understanding how one could live without the oh-so-great benefits of meth, here's a couple counter-arguments:

    - availability (I can't get in easily, neither E85)
    - reliability (do I want to wonder each time I go WOT if the meth system is REALLY working 100%? HELL NO!)
    - circuit driving (on a racetrack, do I want to bother with some secondary fuel and engine cooling band-aid? NOPE! I have to focus on DRIVING!)

    As great as meth works on our cars, there are alot of downsides to it. I'm not even going to mention the couple cars which have caught fire, the legality of such systems etc.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    If the differences between the way I share information with the forum, and how other vendors in the past did are not clear then I don't know what to tell ya. I have respect for the single kit. The hardware was solid, seems like maybe they were just too early. We will have an easier time tuning but I think the fueling issues are gonna rear their head as well. Lets hope this HPFP upgrade is as real as I was told.
    Don't misunderstand Tony... I think everyone here knows you have done an excellent job with keeping everyone informed as well as the hardware you have put together. At the same time, everyone knows that this is half the equation... So it is now up to the first tuners that will touch these to not disappoint us. I have a feeling if its Dzenno or Terry or whomever; they won't disappoint... We just don't want to see a repeat of the single... i.e. no true information, no baseline numbers, sketchy marketing, tons of meth needed to make this run in any half way serious way and so forth...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    LOL, the tuners that get to touch these first are well aware of what they need to do, its just some a few people that dont get it..

    im actually semi excited to see what these do.. gonna call my brother tomorrow and tell him i need to borrow his car for a week or so and drop these in on my own dime..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SCGT Click here to enlarge
    The pictures look great. Can't wait to see some results!

    As someone in AZ with somewhat limited access to E85, step 1 for me would to to evaluate what the numbers are, with nothing other than the ACN 91 water-gas that we have coupled with our outrageous summer temps. If I purchase this upgrade, yes, I'll likely (eventually) also upgrade fueling and/or add meth, but I absolutely want to know what the car will do with no fueling upgrades and no E85, racegas, or meth. FWIW I also want to know the glory numbers, but 90% of my driving is on ACN 91 right now.
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    I love me some N54 porn

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    If these make the same midrange (4000-5000) torque as RB's (500 ft-lbs?) but can carry that torque to redline unlike the RB's, then these will make 100+ hp more at the same torque level. The trick is going to be where the spool lies and if they are too laggy to launch properly. I have confidence in Tony and will be eager to see more results as they come in.

    Keep up the good work dude.

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    These should be able to give some blown M3s a run for their money!
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    The heat signature of the passenger front of that car will have jets scrambled from NORAD... In for results. (of both the jets and TT kit)
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    Looks good. Yes, pump only numbers first makes the most sense. These should produce considerable more HP then RBs with the same fueling. I believe both singles (FFTEC and HPF) is around 500ish on 91oct.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bmw335iguy Click here to enlarge
    $#@! all this 91, 93, race gas, e85, meth talk I just wanna know what it will put down on 87...Click here to enlarge
    Hahahaha. +1. I am not saying they shouldn't be capable of running 91. That's a given. My point is it doesn't really matter compared to the E85/meth numbers. All the 91 numbers are going to tell you is that an RB car could pull your ass if its set up right. Hey, more information is always better, I just am not sure what its worth.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JoshBoody Click here to enlarge
    Looks good. Yes, pump only numbers first makes the most sense. These should produce considerable more HP then RBs with the same fueling. I believe both singles (FFTEC and HPF) is around 500ish on 91oct.
    FBIS made 550-something on 93 octane pump, if I remember right.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DallasBoosted Click here to enlarge
    FBIS made 550-something on 93 octane pump, if I remember right.
    it would be out of this world, if these could do the same and retain the tq and spool characteristics of the rb's
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    it would be out of this world, if these could do the same and retain the tq and spool characteristics of the rb's
    They won't, there's nothing magic about twins vs. single, any differences in spool if they flow similarly are going to be incidental. The nice part is going to be the ability to use the Cobb/ATR framework to tune which means it will be open and fixable rather than black-box hope-it-works with the procede. And therefore, worth our money. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    what most people? i know of 1 e85 station, and its across a bridge.. or another 2 hours north, and I live around the largest cities on the eastern seaboard.. maybe you havent heard, but E85 is great, but nowhere near readily available.. oh i forgot, now we have to order fuel and store it at home because we own an n54.. thats logical.. because everyone has storage space for 55gal drums of fuel..



    stop using logic.. it doesnt belong here because the fanboy's and beta testers get mad
    Just FYI, maybe where you live sucks regarding modern infrastruture development. I live in Phoenix and alternative fuel pumps are everywhere.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    it would be out of this world, if these could do the same and retain the tq and spool characteristics of the rb's
    Not sure if you realize why RB's and similar stage 2 hybrids have the limits they do, its the TINY turbine housing they use. This is why they spool so fast and also why they run out of breath so early. The whole point of going to true upgraded twins is to get rid of this bottleneck, expecting them spool like turbos with a tiny turbine housings makes no sense.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    Just FYI, maybe where you live sucks regarding modern infrastruture development. I live in Phoenix and alternative fuel pumps are everywhere.
    Think you missed the part where @LostMarine stated we live in the NY tristate area, the most densly populated area in the US *NY, NJ & CT*. NJ also has the cheapest gas prices in the country, why we don't have e85 readily available, who knows...

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    Long Island is loaded with e85 stations... Kind of odd Jersey doesnt have em
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ChuckD05 Click here to enlarge
    Long Island is loaded with e85 stations... Kind of odd Jersey doesnt have em
    Agreed, I used go to out to Melville all the time and would routinely see them. My only choices are by Newark airport or in Westchester *Dobbs Ferry area*. Total BS, but I do have a 100oct station a few miles away, but at $8/gallon I only use it for special occasions.

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