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    FTW Racing Fuels Purple E85 oxygenated race fuel - Before / after dynos

    First I have heard of this stuff but the name sure seems appropriate:

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    Check out E85 to FTW Purple on a boosted car:

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    In a naturally aspirated honda:

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    I want it...

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    It's about $33 per gallon... wow.

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    oxygenated E85?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    oxygenated E85?
    Yes, so unleaded essentially.

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    interesting. That price though... just run nitro lol
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    interesting. That price though... just run nitro lol
    I'd run this fuel just to say I did.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    interesting. That price though... just run nitro lol
    Well C16 is probably the next closest gas that'll give you the same performance (allow you to run max boost, very aggressive timing & not implode the motor). C16 is ~$20 a gallon, but because it's leaded it's matter of time until you kill your cats (who cares) or your o2 Sensors (could get annoying if you run C16 a lot & o2 sensors becomes a "normal" expense).

    The argument can prob. be made that it makes the most sense running this stuff when you're looking to set records (1/4 miles or 60-130s) or manhandle the competition (TX2k__, Texas Miles, etc etc)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well C16 is probably the next closest gas that'll give you the same performance (allow you to run max boost, very aggressive timing & not implode the motor). C16 is ~$20 a gallon, but because it's leaded it's matter of time until you kill your cats (who cares) or your o2 Sensors (could get annoying if you run C16 a lot & o2 sensors becomes a "normal" expense).

    The argument can prob. be made that it makes the most sense running this stuff when you're looking to set records (1/4 miles or 60-130s) or manhandle the competition (TX2k__, Texas Miles, etc etc)
    I think Ethanol offers a timing advance gain even over C16.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Well C16 is probably the next closest gas that'll give you the same performance (allow you to run max boost, very aggressive timing & not implode the motor). C16 is ~$20 a gallon, but because it's leaded it's matter of time until you kill your cats (who cares) or your o2 Sensors (could get annoying if you run C16 a lot & o2 sensors becomes a "normal" expense).

    The argument can prob. be made that it makes the most sense running this stuff when you're looking to set records (1/4 miles or 60-130s) or manhandle the competition (TX2k__, Texas Miles, etc etc)
    No sir. This isn't about knock resistance, it actually has more oxygen in the fuel. C16 is not comparable.

    Here is a thread with some good info/results:
    http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2441078
    40whp gain on a GTR with zero timing or boost change.
    Change is constant

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    No sir. This isn't about knock resistance, it actually has more oxygen in the fuel. C16 is not comparable.

    Here is a thread with some good info/results:
    http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2441078
    40whp gain on a GTR with zero timing or boost change.
    I understand that the FTW E85 is a higher quality gas, but because these are probably the two closest fuels in quality & performance capability, I was just comparing the pricing.

    • FTW Purple E85 is $165 for 5 gallons (~$33 a gallon)
    • VP Racing C16 is $100 for 5 gallons. (~$20 a gallon)


    Are you def going to get better performance with FTW's E85, yes. But is it worth nearly being $15 more per gallon?? Debatable. But when you're spending $20+ for just 1 gallon of gas, rationality & buying the "more logical" product goes right out the window.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    I understand that the FTW E85 is a higher quality gas, but because these are probably the two closest fuels in quality & performance capability, I was just comparing the pricing.

    • FTW Purple E85 is $165 for 5 gallons (~$33 a gallon)
    • VP Racing C16 is $100 for 5 gallons. (~$20 a gallon)


    Are you def going to get better performance with FTW's E85, yes. But is it worth nearly being $15 more per gallon?? Debatable. But when you're spending $20+ for just 1 gallon of gas, rationality & buying the "more logical" product goes right out the window.
    I think stickys point is that the fuel is oxygenated, so it will generate more power based on the fact that more air is making its way into the cylinder, outside of the additional effects of the fuel itself. Look up the specs for Q16 to get a better idea on oxygenated fuels.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    I understand that the FTW E85 is a higher quality gas, but because these are probably the two closest fuels in quality & performance capability, I was just comparing the pricing.

    • FTW Purple E85 is $165 for 5 gallons (~$33 a gallon)
    • VP Racing C16 is $100 for 5 gallons. (~$20 a gallon)


    Are you def going to get better performance with FTW's E85, yes. But is it worth nearly being $15 more per gallon?? Debatable. But when you're spending $20+ for just 1 gallon of gas, rationality & buying the "more logical" product goes right out the window.
    Ppl are looking at price per gallon but think of the price to get these power gains with additional mods...

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    Impressive..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mo[MENTION=5076
    crazyRidez;399630]Impressive..
    Beyond belief, I need to try this stuff.

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    Friend did this on a GTR, tuned for E85, changed to Purple FTW. No more advance or boost made minor fuel changes (it does not tune like regular E85). 40+whp

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
    Friend did this on a GTR, tuned for E85, changed to Purple FTW. No more advance or boost made minor fuel changes (it does not tune like regular E85). 40+whp

    http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im.../FTW_GTR-1.jpg
    So he ran the same tune, and gained 40whp?




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90SoFlo Click here to enlarge
    So he ran the same tune, and gained 40whp?
    No, I stated he made fueling changes, the oxygenated fuel does not tune the same. Fueling ONLY.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
    No, I stated he made fueling changes, the oxygenated fuel does not tune the same. Fueling ONLY.
    Oh sorry I mis-read, thats why I asked.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BrenM3 Click here to enlarge
    Friend did this on a GTR, tuned for E85, changed to Purple FTW. No more advance or boost made minor fuel changes (it does not tune like regular E85). 40+whp

    http://www.bimmerboost.com/images/im.../FTW_GTR-1.jpg
    What else needs to be said?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What else needs to be said?
    When is the N54 getting a legit fueling upgrade?? Other than that, this is the only E85 that I could justify having shipped to me
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    When is the N54 getting a legit fueling upgrade??
    Well that's a different discussion.

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    My buddy that has a strictly race track driven drag car was considering trying this for next year. It would make sense in his situation however I see no point on street driven cars. 30% quicker consumption rate and $13 more a gallon doesn't make any sense for dealing with traffic jams. I wonder what it smells like when it's expelled....
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    This stuff is clearly just for racing...

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    Hmmmm, instant HP... Game on...

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