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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    nooo.. it shows that the s65 is underpowered..
    Based on what? What is underpowered versus? The C63 AMG dynos 360 wheel. The M3 dynos 350 wheel. The RS4 and RS5 are both less.

    What is underpowered in comparison to? A GT500?

    The S65 puts out more power than the S62 yet they are rated about the same. How is that not good enough?

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    when did i post a drag race? oh wait, i didnt.. i did however show the point that in N/A form, the S65 gets stomped.. HEEEYYY!! wait a sec.. thats the first thing I said 8 pages ago didnt I...
    Drag race is an acceleration competition that is basically all you are discussing.

    I don't see what it gets stomped by, it has run mid 12's stock.

    It is not a car solely judged by acceleration ability. You just don't get it, sorry.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    Based on what? What is underpowered versus? The C63 AMG dynos 360 wheel. The M3 dynos 350 wheel.
    BINGO!! DETUNED, weighs more, still wins! you go get 'em sticky! and what do they do bolt-on? you da man!

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    I don't see what it gets stomped by
    only because your blinded by the badge..


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    It is not a car solely judged by acceleration ability.

    by whom? dont see many popular roadcourse video's of an M3 popping up on the interwebz..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    BINGO!! DETUNED, weighs more, still wins! you go get 'em sticky! and what do they do bolt-on? you da man!
    It doesn't win it's even. The S65 V8 with less displacement is right there with it. That's impressive.

    Not everyone is interested in straight line acceleration. If that is solely your focus, you bought the wrong car. Or you don't have the budget to mod it for whatever arbitrary figure you want.

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    only because your blinded by the badge..
    Is there some car out there I'm missing? RS4. RS5. IS-F. C63. Did Porsche produce a sport sedan I'm missing?

    Please, what is it?

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    by whom? dont see many popular roadcourse video's of an M3 popping up on the interwebz..
    Try doing a search then because there's a ton. Even on this site: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthread.php?27292-7-36-lap-time-in-Nurburgring

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    It doesn't win it's even. The S65 V8 with less displacement is right there with it. That's impressive.
    no dct, much heavier, and loses, is called a loss.. unimpressive for the S65



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    Try doing a search then because there's a ton. Even on this site:
    was not aware the world on uses BB for car video's.. interesting. 1 professional race doesnt equal all the public captured m3 races..


    Imagine a world.. a world where the S65 had some balls.. Imagine a world where the S65 came as a 5.0..with 450hp (CHP) and had 380rwhp.. but, in its state of "detuned/catted"..then because the car had to be toned down because it was so over engineered, you could add a free flowing intake.. dare i say CSL style.. and gain 15-20hp.. then a set of headers.. gain another 15-20.. then a decat it, a solid 15-20.. and finally a tune, to unloc its true potential, another 15-20.

    by my "idiotic math" that puts us right at 440rwhp.. damn.. how awesome would it be to have 440hp.. (just shy of what 5 psi does for it) all N/A, and still have all that visceral feel and design, and awards everyone keeps clammering about.. all for basic bolt-ons.. N/A

    but damn.. BMW would never sell an M car that is NOT operating at MAXIMUM potential...

    oh wait.. sounds like the old 6 the previous M had.. ya know.. that car that EVERYONE touts as being amazing..

    THAT! would be impressive, and solidify the S65 as a motor worth awarding.. worthy of a PREMIER status in a companies line-up..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    no dct, much heavier, and loses, is called a loss.. unimpressive for the S65
    Doesn't lose, it's dead even. That's impressive versus a 6.2 liter V8 I think. Considering the C63 can't pull away I think that's sad for the AMG.

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    was not aware the world on uses BB for car video's.. interesting. 1 professional race doesnt equal all the public captured m3 races..
    As I told you, search. Even someone like you can figure out how to use a search engine can't you? You think there are no other M3 roadcourse videos? Um, there's tons.

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    I hope BMW doesnt $#@! up the new M3 although as a whole car I am very worried. The turbo is the right move but if the car is anything like current F30 or even remotely resembling it; then we are in for some $#@!.
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    I like turtles.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Itsbrokeagain Click here to enlarge
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    I like turtles.
    /thread

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    Doesn't lose, it's dead even. That's impressive versus a 6.2 liter V8 I think. Considering the C63 can't pull away I think that's sad for the AMG.
    just in case its tears that are blinding you, i simplified it.. these are not screenshots of "dead even". there is a clear winner in each.. and its not an S65, heavier, less awesome trans, and non-award winning motor, i think thats a fail for the motor with every advantage:

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    just in case its tears that are blinding you, i simplified it.. these are not screenshots of "dead even". there is a clear winner in each.. and its not an S65, heavier, less awesome trans, and non-award winning motor, i think thats a fail for the motor with every advantage:

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    Mmmhmm: http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...-Stock-C63-AMG

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    thats your logic? show one video as definitive proof when the 1st participant showed 2? hrrmm.. I guess your taking a page out of BMW's S65 engineers playbook.. "dont try to win, just try to stay within an acceptable distance.."

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    thats your logic? show one video as definitive proof when the 1st participant showed 2? hrrmm.. I guess your taking a page out of BMW's S65 engineers playbook.. "dont try to win, just try to stay within an acceptable distance.."
    OH, it's number of videos. Gotcha.

    So all runs are equal and there are no variables right?

    What is this trying to "win" aspect? It doesn't even matter if you show 1000 videos of an M3 losing a race on youtube. How many times do you have to be told that has nothing to do with the quality of the engine?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    OH, it's number of videos. Gotcha.

    So all runs are equal and there are no variables right?

    What is this trying to "win" aspect? It doesn't even matter if you show 1000 videos of an M3 losing a race on youtube. How many times do you have to be told that has nothing to do with the quality of the engine?
    ok, so you wanna go trap speed, n/a for n/a, how about 60-130, n/a-n/a? pick your poison..

    quality? we compare quality now too? i thought my statement,and historical data show, that the s65 is an underpowered V8..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    Doesn't lose, it's dead even. That's impressive versus a 6.2 liter V8 I think. Considering the C63 can't pull away I think that's sad for the AMG.

    tons.
    C'mon, this is laughable, since when is mediocrity impressive?
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    Sad that the last of its kind bmw m3 NA motor ended up so underwhelming..they should've tried to do the best they can but they probably said S54 was the $#@! and we're going FI so let's just get this S65 out there so we can focus on bigger better things with FI or we get slaughtered out there lol

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    @Irishace I still believe an boosted M3 is going to be the most fun, least hassle, fastesr (road and street) of the 3, for only a marginal increase in cost

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    ok, so you wanna go trap speed, n/a for n/a, how about 60-130, n/a-n/a? pick your poison..
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Sad that the last of its kind bmw m3 NA motor ended up so underwhelming..they should've tried to do the best they can but they probably said S54 was the $#@! and we're going FI so let's just get this S65 out there so we can focus on bigger better things with FI or we get slaughtered out there lol
    It isn't underwhelming, you're just an N54 fanboy unable to see beyond gains with a tune. Add boost to a turbo motor, wow, must be oh so good despite the fact its torque curve and heads are basically crap. Not to mention BMW doesn't even consider it worthy of any real racing.

    Yes that's exactly how the meeting at BMW went. Probably word for word too.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bobS Click here to enlarge
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    C'mon, this is laughable, since when is mediocrity impressive?
    What is mediocre about that?

    This whole forum has turned into a bunch of Fast and the Furious douchebags. I can't believe I let that happen.

    Well, I'm not letting happen.

    And the S65 is ahead of the N54 in all performance aspects by the way. Hello, reality calling. That on top of its better architecture and power delivery.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    What is mediocre about that?

    This whole forum has turned into a bunch of Fast and the Furious douchebags. I can't believe I let that happen.

    Well, I'm not letting happen.

    And the S65 is ahead of the N54 in all performance aspects by the way. Hello, reality calling. That on top of its better architecture and power delivery.
    It should be...no argument there. Your second point is debatable.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blaizon Click here to enlarge
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    It should be...no argument there. Your second point is debatable.
    What should be? There is something mediocre about a smaller motor running with a bigger motor and out performing other bigger motors? That's badass is what it is.

    I remember running C5 Vettes in my E46 M3 and they didn't understand how a small six-cylinder was there with them. I'll tell you how, better engineering.

    A lot of you just aren't capable of grasping analysis beyond 1/4 mile or 60-130. That's pretty mediocre critical thinking.

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    I cant figure out how the S65 only made 30 lb-ft of tq and only 80 hp more than the s54 with 2 extra cylinders, and almost a liter of an extra displacement. It truly isnt that impressive of a motor, even more so if you compare it to the S54 from the CSL. To get real impressive on na motors look at porsches flat 6 from the gt3 rs 4.0... 500 hp, it really mKes the s65 unimpressive.
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    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    I cant figure out how the S65 only made 30 lb-ft of tq and only 80 hp more than the s54 with 2 extra cylinders, and almost a liter of an extra displacement. It truly isnt that impressive of a motor, even more so if you compare it to the S54 from the CSL. To get real impressive on na motors l
    Stupid: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...ower-potential

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
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    To get real impressive on na motors look at porsches flat 6 from the gt3 rs 4.0... 500 hp, it really mKes the s65 unimpressive.
    It does?

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    That's only a $185,000 Porsche. Good post, good point.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    It does?


    That's only a $185,000 Porsche. Good post, good point.
    and a GTR is how much?????????


    once again turbo motors proving their point... this discussion is getting really old
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