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    Evolve M3 S65 V8 supercharger kit components laid out

    Very cool picture that shows what is included:

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    Note, intercooler is not pictured obviously.

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    Yea, I noticed that. Man that thing is $#@!ing sexy

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    Thanks Sticky.

    Just also a point. Alot of people ask why we have so many pulleys.

    So there is a new crank pulley, alternator pulley and water pump pulley. We change these so that we can move to an 8 Rib belt system.

    We can stick with a 6 rib belt system and save quite alot of money (you all know what just 1 replacement under driven pulley costs) however the 8 rib belt setup allows for maximum belt traction which has many benefits which may not show up on the most common proving ground - the dyno. Instant throttle application gives that extra belt traction and therefore instant power delivery as well as a longer lasting belt.

    Feel free to ask any questions about the kit and why parts were developed the way they were.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
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    Thanks Sticky.

    Just also a point. Alot of people ask why we have so many pulleys.

    So there is a new crank pulley, alternator pulley and water pump pulley. We change these so that we can move to an 8 Rib belt system.

    We can stick with a 6 rib belt system and save quite alot of money (you all know what just 1 replacement under driven pulley costs) however the 8 rib belt setup allows for maximum belt traction which has many benefits which may not show up on the most common proving ground - the dyno. Instant throttle application gives that extra belt traction and therefore instant power delivery as well as a longer lasting belt.

    Feel free to ask any questions about the kit and why parts were developed the way they were.
    I have a question. Why does nobody do a cog setup?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
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    We can stick with a 6 rib belt system and save quite alot of money (you all know what just 1 replacement under driven pulley costs) however the 8 rib belt setup allows for maximum belt traction which has many benefits which may not show up on the most common proving ground - the dyno. Instant throttle application gives that extra belt traction and therefore instant power delivery as well as a longer lasting belt.
    Things like this are why I hold Evolve in such high regard.

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    ugh do want

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mkpoto Click here to enlarge
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    ugh do want
    WHO DOESNT!!?

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    Only the ones who appreciate the engineering will want this one.
    Lostmarine sees the engineering!

    Sticky - cog systems increase noise quite some bit and with harsh RPM limiters break the impeller shafts on superchargers.

    When we did the Vortech V3Si with our setup we also used an 8 Rib belt system. Spoke to Vortech at SEMA in 2011 and they INSISTED on it with this application. Same as on their website.

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    list of main parts in image:


    1 x Crank Pulley (8 Rib conversion)
    1 x Water Pump Pulley (8 Rib conversion)
    1 x Alternator Pulley (8 Rib Conversion)
    1 x Tensioner bracket with wider idler pulley (for wider 8 Rib conversion)
    3 x Idler Pulleys
    1 x CNC Supercharger Primary Bracket
    1 x CNC Supercharger VANOS Cover Mounting Bracket
    1 x CNC Supercharger Belt System Cover (Also gives incredibly strength to overall bracket system)
    1 x Rotrex C38-91 with Xylan Coating to outlet
    1 x Bottle of Rotrex Supercharger Traction Fluid
    1 x Rotrex Oil Cooler
    1 x Rotrex Oil Canister Reservoir
    1 x Nylon Composite High Flow Intake (Air Filter Side)
    2 x High Strength Wire Rung Silicone Boost Pipes
    1 x CNC Intake Plenum
    2 x 40mm Recirculating Blow off Vavles
    2 x Breather System Connectors
    8 x Bosch Injectors
    1 x 8 Rib Serpentine Belt
    1 x IAT sensor extension wire
    Various Vacuum hoses
    Various Silicone Hoses for recirculating blow off valve system
    Various Nuts, Bolts, Washers and Rubber Mountings


    Intercooler, intercooler connecting parts, mounting, intake system and air filter not shown in this image

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Waiting for someone to get this bolted on & video an Evolve M3 killing an ESS-625/650
    Im sure it wont take long once its released Click here to enlarge

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    It's released.

    From the initial response, looks like more european customers want this kit. All but one of the first 10 have been sold in Europe who are just waiting for delivery.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
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    Sticky - cog systems increase noise quite some bit and with harsh RPM limiters break the impeller shafts on superchargers.
    So noiser and less reliable but superior performance?
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    You look like a retarded teenager discovering internet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Waiting for someone to get this bolted on & video an Evolve M3 killing an ESS-625/650
    To be perfectly honest, the stock internal kits ultimately will all end up close to one another. It's how they deliver that power...
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    You look like a retarded teenager discovering internet.

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    Damn thats a sexy bit of kit.
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    Absolute zero slip issues.

    However, with an 8 rib setup... belt slip is absolutely minimal anyway.

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    ok,

    some interesting questions coming through from some people.

    Can we use a charge cooler instead in our plenum?

    Answer - yes we can, very easy. All we need to do is make a new base plate for the plenum which is deeper so we can house a core in there. It would be of a very large size so quite effective.

    Why haven't we done it?

    Answer - the front bumper has to come off on ANY charge cooled setup anyway. For our intercooler you only have to move the front panel forward to place it in it;'s position and that is only an extra hours worth of work.
    So.... it's done and designed the way it is and I am sure you will see the benefits of an excellent recovery rate from an FMIC. It is not at all difficult to fit over what may seem like an easier fitting solution on the charge cooler.

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    Mmmmm, mmmmmm. Looking good!

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    I should put up the images of the one we are installing here right now.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Waiting for someone to get this bolted on & video an Evolve M3 killing an ESS-625/650
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    As far as cog setups go, it's application dependent....typically they're high maintenance and since the S65 delivers some serious high rpm fluctuations, I'd say an 8-rib is certainly the most hassle free street/strip option properly tensioned. Engineering something successful is a lofty task of balancing between extremes. Spitting teeth of cog belts and chewing up input shafts will ruin anyone's day,cogs seem better paired to things that exhibit short run times or share no other accessories...half of any top fuel car's blower drive(along with thousands of dollars in whatever else) goes into the trash can after every pass, same goes with alcohol funny cars. They don't even bother with risking spitting a belt...very nice looking kit evolve.

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    Gorgeous guys. The attention to detail on your products is most impressive.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by evolve Click here to enlarge
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    I should put up the images of the one we are installing here right now.
    ive seen them jerk..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
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    Waiting for someone to get this bolted on & video an Evolve M3 killing an ESS-625/650
    why all the hate for ess kits? I have a vt 625 kit on the way and i've only read great things about them.

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