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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    Not without a back end flash, stock timing curve is not enough for max power.
    so the flash tunes are advancing timing over stock targets?

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    yes, especially post shift targets
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    my bet is fbo pump/meth
    Mine too... I don't like meth but I do seem to think it makes power. The E85 is more consistent though, so we'll see.
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    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    so the flash tunes are advancing timing over stock targets?
    Absolutely.
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    got a log?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    got a log?
    I'll post some tomorrow, my laptop is at work. The OTS Cobb race maps run a more aggressive timing curve that stock in the midrange and lower load cells. They left quite a bit of timing on the table up top though. My E85 + Meth protune map will hit 17* if I rev past 6500.
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    It depends on meth concentration and volume. He said he will run weak concentration, i.e. too much water so he'll lose. If he runs straight meth he will win.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    got a log?
    Here's an older graph of a log. This was during the summer, hence the IAT. I cant remember if this was 93+ Meth or E50 +Meth. 60/40 Meth/h2o by volume.
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    chuck... we r waiting for the vid!
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    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    money is still on jb4 and meth Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    money is still on jb4 and meth Click here to enlarge
    I should've gotten E85 & run that 135 with the JB4 Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    I should've gotten E85 & run that 135 with the JB4 Click here to enlarge
    Let me know if you're ever up in my neck of woods. We're closer to even now Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    so the flash tunes are advancing timing over stock targets?
    stock timing 10 degrees to 14, E85 timing 12-14 to 16 depending on the tuner's aggression level, it's nice to write your own timing tables, times have changed since you owned your N54

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Let me know if you're ever up in my neck of woods. We're closer to even now Click here to enlarge
    Yea, I have lots of fam in Long Island & my brother goes to school in CT, so if I'm ever in that area I'll give you a heads up. Hopefully we keep having these beautiful 40-50 days cause the car is hauling ASSS right now.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Yea, I have lots of fam in Long Island & my brother goes to school in CT, so if I'm ever in that area I'll give you a heads up. Hopefully we keep having these beautiful 40-50 days cause the car is hauling ASSS right now.
    I'm like 10 minutes off the Nassau border in Queens. We can go to "Mexico" for some high speed fun (and for you to see first hand what flatlining 5th gear does to a car) Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    I'm like 10 minutes off the Nassau border in Queens. We can go to "Mexico" for some high speed fun Click here to enlarge
    God, do I love high speed runs in Mexico Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    God, do I love high speed runs in Mexico Click here to enlarge
    I've pegged the speedo multiple times in Mexico Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    stock timing 10 degrees to 14, E85 timing 12-14 to 16 depending on the tuner's aggression level, it's nice to write your own timing tables, times have changed since you owned your N54
    you sure about that? i recall seeing 15 and 16* in non flashed logs

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    you sure about that? i recall seeing 15 and 16* in non flashed logs
    Maybe that was JB4 with CPS though? Without CPS or flash I thought you were stuck in the stock curve?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by amclint Click here to enlarge
    Maybe that was JB4 with CPS though? Without CPS or flash I thought you were stuck in the stock curve?
    i was, i never used cps beyond some pumpgas testing for T when it first came out

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    video somebody!!! i am trying to compare an FBO e85 car to FBO an meth...


    my money is still on the meth but i want to see a direct comparison
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    N54 is not a German 2JZ lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    you sure about that? i recall seeing 15 and 16* in non flashed logs
    Sure, part throttle.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by amclint Click here to enlarge
    Maybe that was JB4 with CPS though? Without CPS or flash I thought you were stuck in the stock curve?
    BMS cps only offsets timing it doesn't advance it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    you sure about that? i recall seeing 15 and 16* in non flashed logs
    Here is a screen shot of the stock timing curve
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    Here is the e30 map
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    The e30 map is still fairly conservative(especially up top) compared to what can be done with with higher ethanol mixes or with meth on top.
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    yea, i searched logs as well. still think Jb4 will take it Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    yea, i searched logs as well. still think Jb4 will take it Click here to enlarge
    Lol I bet you do
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