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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    So, the only way that this theory adds up on a technical level is that the DMFW is sending adverse reactions all the way through the crank thus disrupting timing chain deflection, creating cam/crank angle reference errors. Boy.theoretically that's like watching a Rube Goldberg machine go through it's paces. I'd be more inclined to buy it IF the reluctor ring was on the FW instead of the crank...I'm not discounting the incredibly slim chance that this is possible, but under full load against 6,000 rpm of rotational load?! Ha...This is great. One would assume the DMFW would be exiting the bellhousing in a relatively violent manner at that sort of disruption level. I'd love to see some oscilloscope screen shots of this going down.....
    Yeah it doesn't really add up to me either. I'd worry more about bearing issues, etc, if there are really harmonics flying down the crankshaft. But I have not personally done testing on this so who knows. A good solid flywheel is always a good move anyway. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    Now for all of the people who doubted me and said I was trolling? You are the real trolls. Feel free to insert your foot into your mout.



    You are welcome.
    I didn't doubt you, I said you're a troll. I was wrong though, you're actually a HUGE troll as evidenced by this post. Now I am trolling you, but that's mainly because I have run out of patience for your milking every ounce of attention at a fix that shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place. Why were you running the stock flywheel in the first place? You spend 10k on a turbo kit and buy two cars (this is also pretty dumb especially since one was an AT....), but don't upgrade the clutch?? Click here to enlarge Sorry, that's my troll post, wish I could live up to the 10 pages you laid down.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Yeah it doesn't really add up to me either. I'd worry more about bearing issues, etc, if there are really harmonics flying down the crankshaft. But I have not personally done testing on this so who knows. A good solid flywheel is always a good move anyway. Click here to enlarge
    Anyone attempting to run a single in these should have a twin disk going in as a single turbo kit support mod, mandatory. I've seen a DMFW exit the bellhousing on a car with a flash/DP's....really asking for it trying to run 10's on a single disc and DMfw. nuts...that explanation is an amusing HYPOTHESIS at best...would be the first time i've ever heard of such a thing lol...and I've been around enough to know.proof is pudding people.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    I'd love to see some oscilloscope screen shots of this going down.....
    im sure

    @tmo335tt can help you.. i mean, he has all the required hardware, obvious by the supercool photo posted. and the fact he can tear into the motor, find, search, order,recieve, install and evaluate conclusivley what the problem was and is now rectified within MINUTES of the post being made

    what do ya say TMO?

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    Now I am not a car expert or anything but a flywheel causing misfires...? I really hope they test this and it works out because by nature it sounds a wee bit ridiculous.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    I didn't doubt you, I said you're a troll. I was wrong though, you're actually a HUGE troll as evidenced by this post. Now I am trolling you, but that's mainly because I have run out of patience for your milking every ounce of attention at a fix that shouldn't have even been an issue in the first place. Why were you running the stock flywheel in the first place? You spend 10k on a turbo kit and buy two cars (this is also pretty dumb especially since one was an AT....), but don't upgrade the clutch?? Click here to enlarge Sorry, that's my troll post, wish I could live up to the 10 pages you laid down.
    Hey Troll boy...check out drag times...i'm willing to bet that my AT is faster than your car. Please post your time slips.


    My ST car is fixed, I could care less what you guys think.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    im sure

    @tmo335tt can help you.. i mean, he has all the required hardware, obvious by the supercool photo posted. and the fact he can tear into the motor, find, search, order,recieve, install and evaluate conclusivley what the problem was and is now rectified within MINUTES of the post being made


    what do ya say TMO?
    probably a snap-on vantage tutorial screenshot of "his is what a bad crank signal looks like" lmao...I dont have the patience,time nor desire to look back through this glorious novel of tragedy atm, but i sure hope it's dual trace and shows cam sig in relation...move that cursor to where he interference begins lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    My ST car is fixed, I could care less what you guys think.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    Hey Troll boy...check out drag times...i'm willing to bet that my AT is faster than your car. Please post your time slips.


    My ST car is fixed, I could care less what you guys think.
    Lol. I am sure it is. That being said, I didn't buy two cars, spend 10k on a turbo kit, and now 2k on a clutch, just to get 125whp more than an fbo car, so I am not worrying about it too much. Troll on.
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    i'm willing to bet that my AT is faster than your car.
    I am willing to bet my dick is bigger than yours. Also my dad can beat your dad up. Yes, that's how ridiculous I find your response to be. Click here to enlarge
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    It would be nice if we could keep this discussion purely technical and respectful for the sake of problem solving...but for some odd reason I think I may be asking too much on the internet.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335Coupe Click here to enlarge
    It would be nice if we could keep this discussion purely technical and respectful for the sake of problem solving...
    Come on, you aren't new here.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GeorgiaTech335Coupe Click here to enlarge
    It would be nice if we could keep this discussion purely technical and respectful for the sake of problem solving...but for some odd reason I think I may be asking too much on the internet.
    You read my mind. As long as we are discussing and not telling other about solutions then not Sharon. That was my point entirely.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
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    See you at the track.
    Please make this happen, i believe we are yet to see a st dyno/timeslip/vbox/blurred video clip.. From an unbiased third party (or $#@!, even a biased first party..)

    nda's are $#@!.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
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    See you at the track.
    Have the diff lockdown in place or at least solid diff bushings? Be careful with wheelhop and good luck!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    Please make this happen, i believe we are yet to see a st dyno/timeslip/vbox/blurred video clip.. From an unbiased third party (or $#@!, even a biased first party..)

    nda's are $#@!.
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    so this "fix" doesn't apply to chronically misfiring 6ATs?

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    MAYBE in an unachievable utopian-like society producers would be more forthright in providing more detailed feedback on issues re these single cars...then those with useful input could coalesce a USEFUL directive into SOLVING said "phantom" problems.All the basic ingredients are there for producing real power reliably, yet every attempt i've seen to date seems to be lacking true evidence or consistent operation...people dump thousands of dollars into these things for relatively sup-par results in the grand scheme of things...there is a common thread in all these instances, I refuse to believe it any other way...all the steps taken to topple the high hp barrier result in a lot of talk and no results...just static. Many heads are better than a few (well, the right heads). These are incredibly intelligent cars, It's obviously no easy task to go up against the DME and get real numbers without conflict, there's 30 times the engineers working in unison across the pond that have integrated these cars in incredible ways than there are here trying to get a single turbo to work right...the game gets harder with every new model year. I'd love to see some real tech discussion into the REAL manner(s) @ hand...I expect too much from the web i suppose.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    so this "fix" doesn't apply to chronically misfiring 6ATs?
    6at's do not have a dual mass flywheel

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    6at's do not have a dual mass flywheel
    heh i wrote that before I caught the actual fix thread from shiv on nazipost. Carry on.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by tmo335tt Click here to enlarge
    6at's do not have a dual mass flywheel

    Well that just throws a wrench in the epiphany doesnt it
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    heh i wrote that before I caught the actual fix thread from shiv on nazipost. Carry on.
    They cured aids over there did ya see that?
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    With all do respect to everyone here...Lets just wait and see if this is the fix. In theory it can be the cause.

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    Not to mention if I were to dump $thousands$ of dollars into said single turbo set up, I'd be looking for a bit more whp/tq than what's posted above. I'm looking further down the road...it's a power race that will keep escalating...It's at the end of the road for DME/piggyback interfaces.I was in the situation back in the late 90's with the supra's, community/producer communications eventually overcame that hurdle,now you're not $#@! in the supra community unless your over 1kwhp(and those are cave-man computers in relation to DME's). There aren't parts available atm to step past that 650hp reliably,back to back...there's some major conflicts to be addressed...they can be.It's highly unlikely that one shop is going to independently crack this little glass ceiling i see...

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    Next would be an engine rebuild!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rick@defiv Click here to enlarge
    Not to mention if I were to dump $thousands$ of dollars into said single turbo set up, I'd be looking for a bit more whp/tq than what's posted above. I'm looking further down the road...it's a power race that will keep escalating...It's at the end of the road for DME/piggyback interfaces.I was in the situation back in the late 90's with the supra's, community/producer communications eventually overcame that hurdle,now you're not $#@! in the supra community unless your over 1kwhp(and those are cave-man computers in relation to DME's). There aren't parts available atm to step past that 650hp reliably,back to back...there's some major conflicts to be addressed...they can be.It's highly unlikely that one shop is going to independently crack this little glass ceiling i see...
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