Sprayed ZR1 vs GTR

[Mr.Squeeze]

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so what was the whole point of this argument again?

The SC M3 has DCT 4 seats better interior and great VE lol

[Sticky]

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so what was the whole point of this argument again?

There really wasn't one I just wanted to show the M3 some of these fools talk down upon is stronger than they say it is.

[LostMarine]

has the fastest dct M3 gone faster than the fastest stock ZR1?

[Sticky]

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Let me ask you this Sticky is there any other car's on the planet you like beside a M3?

No. I hate all cars other than the M3. My ideal planet would be called Planet M and people could only drive M cars. And I got to pick who could drive them. Everyone else would have to walk and admire. And if anyone spoke out their homes would be entirely replaced with the interior of a C6 Vette they would be forced to live in as punishment.

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So now your going to drag E46 M3's into the mix thought we was talking about S65 here E90+ M3. Another classic example of what if, I will say it again a M3 is not in the same league. S65 that is

You dragged 996tt's in the mix what do you want me to do? That was you changing the discussion, not me.

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People we always like a car that comes from the factory with force induction.

1.Simple to mod easy to upgrade.
2.factory warranty a lot of people look for this.

Who give's a $#@! about volumetric efficiency smh.

Because if you boost a peace of crap motor it will still be a piece of crap motor just with more power. How many other motors with 4.0 liters of displacement or less and a supercharger do what the M3 does? Can you name 1?

[Sticky]

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has the fastest dct M3 gone faster than the fastest stock ZR1?

Aren't they both at 132?

[LostMarine]

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Aren't they both at 132?

nope, fastest ET and mph

[ultimateendz]

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No. I hate all cars other than the M3. My ideal planet would be called Planet M and people could only drive M cars. And I got to pick who could drive them. Everyone else would have to walk and admire. And if anyone spoke out their homes would be entirely replaced with the interior of a C6 Vette they would be forced to live in as punishment.

lol

[Mr.Squeeze]

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No. I hate all cars other than the M3. My ideal planet would be called Planet M and people could only drive M cars. And I got to pick who could drive them. Everyone else would have to walk and admire. And if anyone spoke out their homes would be entirely replaced with the interior of a C6 Vette they would be forced to live in as punishment.



You dragged 996tt's in the mix what do you want me to do? That was you changing the discussion, not me.



Because if you boost a peace of crap motor it will still be a piece of crap motor just with more power. How many other motors with 4.0 liters of displacement or less and a supercharger do what the M3 does? Can you name 1?

Cant name one and your point ?

The M3 is impressive never said it wasn't I actually like SC m3's.


No matter the VE it's still not in the same league as a ZR1. M3 does have DCT and back seats though .

[Sticky]

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nope, fastest ET and mph

Oh you mean overall. ZR1 is way higher and always will be.

[Sticky]

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Cant name one and your point ?

The M3 is impressive never said it wasn't I actually like SC m3's.


No matter the VE it's still not in the same league as a ZR1. M3 does have DCT and back seats though .

If the S65 V8 was 6.2 liters it would be superior. It isn't, so it has to rev higher and use technology which is awesome. It's one of the best V8's in the world and that is why it does so much with relatively little displacement and boost.

My point being for what it is, the car is incredibly strong.

[ultimateendz]

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If the S65 V8 was 6.2 liters it would be superior. It isn't, so it has to rev higher and use technology which is awesome. It's one of the best V8's in the world and that is why it does so much with relatively little displacement and boost.

My point being for what it is, the car is incredibly strong.

but its not 6.2L....as the saying goes...no replacement for displacement

[Sticky]

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but its not 6.2L....as the saying goes...no replacement for displacement

Agreed but technology helps. And I'd take the S65 V8 over a lot of other V8's. Is the Aston or Jag V8 better with more displacement?

[ultimateendz]

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Agreed but technology helps. And I'd take the S65 V8 over a lot of other V8's. Is the Aston or Jag V8 better with more displacement?

question is define "better" because my definition of better and yours are most likely different

[Sticky]

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question is define "better" because my definition of better and yours are most likely different

Well my definition is the only correct one.

[ultimateendz]

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Well my definition is the only correct one.

this is like trying to debate with les grossman

[Sledgehammer]

Basically we know that the fastest SC M3 with the all glorious DCT can barely keep up with a 100% stock ZR in the quarter... We know that Unicorns do exist and the changing your argument to suit a particular subject or goal is fair game in the land of Unicorns. Overall the facts are still the same

SC M3 DCT = Fast plus it has four seat
ZR1 Stock = Faster

I think a Vortech equipped M3 vs GT 5.0 is a far better comparison they are in the same league performance wise and they both have back seats.... GLORY

[Sticky]

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this is like trying to debate with les grossman

I was joking... somewhat.

[Sticky]

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Basically we know that the fastest SC M3 with the all glorious DCT can barely keep up with a 100% stock ZR in the quarter...

How is running the same ET as the fastest record stock ZR1 barely keeping up? Continue to be in denail.

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SC M3 DCT = Fast plus it has four seat
ZR1 Stock = Faster

Sorry, ZR1 isn't faster and a blown M3 offers ZR1 performance for less money with four seats just like I said it does. So sorry, you are wrong and continue to be.

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I think a Vortech equipped M3 vs GT 5.0 is a far better comparison they are in the same league performance wise and they both have back seats.... GLORY

That's fine, keep bringing up other cars to distract from the fact I was correct and you had no idea what you were talking about. More reading, less typing.

[Mr.Squeeze]

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If the S65 V8 was 6.2 liters it would be superior. It isn't, so it has to rev higher and use technology which is awesome. It's one of the best V8's in the world and that is why it does so much with relatively little displacement and boost.

My point being for what it is, the car is incredibly strong.

Once again another what if by you.

Ok let me try mmm lets see ok I got one

If the ZR1 had DCT it would be superior ,and destroy the M3 smack it around all day long lol.

[LostMarine]

"How is running the same ET as the fastest record stock ZR1 barely keeping up? Continue to be in denail."
I don't see why this is coming up, the fastest m3 was on drag radials, and a stock zr1 on drags is .3 faster and 4mph faster...

Don't get me wrong, once my M is 10.x @ 130 ill be very happy, and it will be am awesome car. I'll take it over a zr1 as its a better CAR, but its not a FASTER car

[Sticky]

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Once again another what if by you.

Ok let me try mmm lets see ok I got one

If the ZR1 had DCT it would be superior ,and destroy the M3 smack it around all day long lol.

No that was the first what if point used to support the idea of engine efficiency.

The ZR1 sure would be better with a DCT but it doesn't have one. The M3 does.

[Sticky]

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I don't see why this is coming up, the fastest m3 was on drag radials, and a stock zr1 on drags is .3 faster and 4mph faster...

Versus THAT VF M3. It doesn't change the fact the M3 with a blower is actually making more power than a stock ZR1 and has run the same traps as your "fastest" stock ZR1. So my point still stands and is proven, thanks.

[Mr.Squeeze]

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No that was the first what if point used to support the idea of engine efficiency.

The ZR1 sure would be better with a DCT but it doesn't have one. The M3 does.

You hit it right on the nose the ZR1 doesn't have one. My point for bringing it up was to point out a actual fact, not all different kinds of scenarios that your always good for.

You have preached a million times about S65 engine efficiency in countless threads.

Your always good for a what if , or some excuse for the M3 that's my point.

[Sticky]

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You hit it right on the nose the ZR1 doesn't have one. My point for bringing it up was to point out a actual fact, not all different kinds of scenarios that your always good for

So you're playing the what-if games you are accusing me of?

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You have preached a million times about S65 engine efficiency in countless threads.

It is efficient.

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Your always good for a what if , or some excuse for the M3 that's my point.

I don't need to make excuses for it. ZR1 performance with a blower for less money... speaks for itself. Some of you even had trouble believing it

[oldgixxer]

And yet another thread down the $#@!ter with the back&forth drivel....