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    Evolve has cleaned up other companies messes before but that stuff stays off the forums...
    I might be getting inline!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Norm's ESS blower kit is now tuned by Evolve. Ask him if he wants to go back to ESS's tune he originally paid for! He posted earlier in this thread.
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    If I were in LM's position vehicle wise, no doubt that would be my move. Drama or no drama..


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    Cool Update - 308 rwhp / 242 rwtq

    After logging some OBD 2 data (IAT, Timing, Throttle pos.), found out my IATs needed some work.

    I modified the snorkel setup I had with some suggestions from Alex (@flipm3) and Sal (@evolve_auto) and snuck in for a few runs this morning. Quite pleased with the results with my 97,000 mile beast.

    Mods
    -4.10
    -91 octane (winter-blend crap)
    -Fleabay headers
    -Borla v2 with cats (http://www.custom-performance.net/pr...idproduct=1171)
    -Evolve box
    -Evolve tune

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    Ebay headers and Borla midpipe come off tomorrow. Supersprint Stepped V1 headers and catted section 1 go on in their place.

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    Nice results Mike! I bet you can feel the difference in how the car drives as well.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by normcaldwell Click here to enlarge
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    Nice results Mike! I bet you can feel the difference in how the car drives as well.
    Yes sir! 15+ rwtq at midrange and 10 at peak is a difference maker on the rump and chassis dyno.

    Here is what is waiting for me tomorrow morning
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    and an SS resonated section 2 (no pics sorry).

    I would be pleased with another 5-8 whp with the new parts.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    After logging some OBD 2 data (IAT, Timing, Throttle pos.), found out my IATs needed some work.

    I modified the snorkel setup I had with some suggestions from Alex (@flipm3 ) and Sal (@evolve _auto) and snuck in for a few runs this morning. Quite pleased with the results with my 97,000 mile beast.

    Mods
    -4.10
    -91 octane (winter-blend crap)
    -Fleabay headers
    -Borla v2 with cats (http://www.custom-performance.net/pr...idproduct=1171)
    -Evolve box
    -Evolve tune

    http://www.PorscheBoost.com/images/i..._headers-1.jpg

    Ebay headers and Borla midpipe come off tomorrow. Supersprint Stepped V1 headers and catted section 1 go on in their place.
    I think the 4.10 gears may be hurting you more than helping.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    I think the 4.10 gears may be hurting you more than helping.
    You crazy Joe! Love the gears. You can have the extra HP on the dyno. If I got a new one, headers and gears would be the first mods. If you plan to go FI I would not recommend them.

    @normcaldwell could tell the difference when he drove mine and he has 3.91's in his beast. Paired with a high revving N/A six soon to be 8,500 rpm red line (head will sustain 9000 when done) I will be in the high 30's maybe 40 at the top of 1st.

    For you Joe. Old but still relevant: http://ls1tech.com/forums/2811675-post15.html

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    After logging some OBD 2 data (IAT, Timing, Throttle pos.), found out my IATs needed some work.

    I modified the snorkel setup I had with some suggestions from Alex (@flipm3 ) and Sal (@evolve _auto) and snuck in for a few runs this morning. Quite pleased with the results with my 97,000 mile beast.

    Mods
    -4.10
    -91 octane (winter-blend crap)
    -Fleabay headers
    -Borla v2 with cats (http://www.custom-performance.net/pr...idproduct=1171)
    -Evolve box
    -Evolve tune

    http://www.PorscheBoost.com/images/i..._headers-1.jpg

    Ebay headers and Borla midpipe come off tomorrow. Supersprint Stepped V1 headers and catted section 1 go on in their place.
    so your saying damn near 30 rwhp gain from Evolves tuning over ESS's..?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
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    so your saying damn near 30 rwhp gain from Evolves tuning over ESS's..?
    Impressive tuning but its hard to quantify as we did have one hardware change at the end. The Evolve CSL style airbox. But the box is supposed to be only worth a few ponies hardware alone.

    edit: first tune comparison graph I posted was with the same OE box and they both were MAF based tunes. Evolve's tune beat that one everywhere. About 20+whp/15rwtq delta in the 4000-6500 range.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    You crazy Joe! Love the gears. You can have the extra HP on the dyno. If I got a new one, headers and gears would be the first mods. If you plan to go FI I would not recommend them.

    @normcaldwell could tell the difference when he drove mine and he has 3.91's in his beast. Paired with a high revving N/A six soon to be 8,500 rpm red line (head will sustain 9000 when done) I will be in the high 30's maybe 40 at the top of 1st.

    For you Joe. Old but still relevant: http://ls1tech.com/forums/2811675-post15.html
    I really didn't like my short gears but if you like them, hey, that's great.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Impressive tuning but its hard to quantify as we did have one hardware change at the end. The Evolve CSL style airbox. But the box is supposed to be only worth a few ponies hardware alone.
    But it's Alpha-N tuning then with that airbox right?

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    I really didn't like my short gears but if you like them, hey, that's great.
    If I was interested in participating in standing mile events or 60-130 times I would think differently.
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    But it's Alpha-N tuning then with that airbox right?
    Yes.

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    Yes.
    That no doubt is the reason for the huge power gain, very nice.

    Did they say anything about issues in elevation or if you take the car to the mountains?

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    That no doubt is the reason for the huge power gain, very nice.
    Please explain the +20rwhp/15rwtq midrange gain and 13rwhp/11rwtq gain recorded while the car was flashed strapped on the dyno rollers (see first dyno in this thread). That tune never had a chance to adapt either. Both MAF tunes. The alpha-n is just a tuning platform. The mere presence of it doesn't make power.
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    Did they say anything about issues in elevation or if you take the car to the mountains?
    Yea he did. I got a proper phone card this time and talked with him throughout the dyno tune. He doesn't like or trust how the correction factors (either one) work at high altitude. We both acknowledged that my headers and cats that are on there (he called them both ebay rubbish!) were not helping the process. I want to maximize the car in bolt on fashion before I swap heads/cams.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Please explain the +20rwhp/15rwtq midrange gain and 13rwhp/11rwtq gain recorded while the car was flashed strapped on the dyno rollers (see first dyno in this thread). That tune never had a chance to adapt either. Both MAF tunes. The alpha-n is just a tuning platform. The mere presence of it doesn't make power.
    I'm not denying the tune quality or that it is better, it is. I'm just saying the comparison is an Alpha-N tune versus a standard tune. Regardless, the Evolve tune makes much more power.

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    Yea he did. I got a proper phone card this time and talked with him throughout the dyno tune. He doesn't like or trust how the correction factors (either one) work at high altitude. We both acknowledged that my headers and cats that are on there (he called them both ebay rubbish!) were not helping the process. I want to maximize the car in bolt on fashion before I swap heads/cams.
    So you pretty much have to drive it at a similar altitude right?

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    Awesome results man!

    Evolve has been making HUGE power on this car in both boosted and naturally aspirated platforms. Both @normcaldwell and @MisterEm are prime examples of that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    (he called them both ebay rubbish!) were not helping the process. I want to maximize the car in bolt on fashion
    lol, same thing here.. its funny, and true.. ebay xpipe.

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    Sticky, not sure what you are nitpicking this time. The first dyno in the thread compared two MAF tunes; not Alpha-N to MAF. Apples to apples. I'm sure if I paid for more dyno time the original delta would have been much higher if the Evolve tune had the chance to adapt as the ESS tune had 10,000 miles plus.

    This last comparison was only changing snorkel setups. You're thinking too much.

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    So you pretty much have to drive it at a similar altitude right?
    Quite the contrary. Now I can drive the car here at 6,000 feet and enjoy it as well as sea level. More fuel up top isn't going to prevent the car from performing at sea level.

    Back to header removal...

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    Good stuff man. NA power FTW. Click here to enlarge
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    Yea he did. I got a proper phone card this time and talked with him throughout the dyno tune. He doesn't like or trust how the correction factors (either one) work at high altitude. We both acknowledged that my headers and cats that are on there (he called them both ebay rubbish!) were not helping the process. I want to maximize the car in bolt on fashion before I swap heads/cams.
    I was wondering how CSL's work in different parts of the world with Alpha-N? Did BMW tune the cars specifically for the destination each car was headed too?

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    Sticky, not sure what you are nitpicking this time. The first dyno in the thread compared two MAF tunes; not Alpha-N to MAF. Apples to apples. I'm sure if I paid for more dyno time the original delta would have been much higher if the Evolve tune had the chance to adapt as the ESS tune had 10,000 miles plus.

    This last comparison was only changing snorkel setups. You're thinking too much.
    Not nitpicking anything please don't get defensive just want to point out one is Alpha-N and one isn't, that's all.

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    Quite the contrary. Now I can drive the car here at 6,000 feet and enjoy it as well as sea level.
    That's awesome. It's always been the supposed elevation issues that have kept me away from Alpha-N setups for myself.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
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    I was wondering how CSL's work in different parts of the world with Alpha-N? Did BMW tune the cars specifically for the destination each car was headed too?
    I've always wondered about this too.

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    Not nitpicking anything please don't get defensive just want to point out one is Alpha-N and one isn't, that's all.
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    Ha ha! Only you and LM were comparing Alpha-N to MAF big boy. Not I. I'd like you to find where I was posting comparisons of MAF tunes to Alpha-N based tunes.




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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
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    I was wondering how CSL's work in different parts of the world with Alpha-N? Did BMW tune the cars specifically for the destination each car was headed too?
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    I've always wondered about this too.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
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    Ha ha! Only you and LM were comparing Alpha-N to MAF big boy. Not I. I'd like you to find where I was posting comparisons of MAF tunes to Alpha-N based tunes.

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    I really think you are taking this the wrong way... I'm not criticizing you just trying to explain the reasons to others who might be wondering why the gains are so large.

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