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    The 2017 (991.2) Porsche 911 Carrera S beats the Porsche 991.1 Turbo S and GT3 around Big Willow + AMG GT S, C7 Z06, Huracan, and GT-R Nismo laptimes

    This is pretty crazy and just goes to show just how good the 991.2 generation Carrera models are. Who would have ever thought a Carrera S would top a 911 GT3 or a Turbo S around the track? Well, it happened as the latest Big Willow laptimes from MotorTrend show us.

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    Of course, different conditions on different days play a factor but a Carrera S beating not only a 911 Turbo S but the 911 (991) GT3 as well around the track is simply incredible.

    So we established the Carrera S is an awesome performance value but look at the AMG GT S and and the Corvette Grand Sport. The Corvette is quicker than either for less money. The AMG GT S just edges the Carrera S which is impressive considering the Mercedes is a front engine layout that weighs more. Having a more powerful and larger engine doesn't hurt.

    The C7 Z06 remains the car to beat with the Huracan right on its tail. It is interesting to note that the 2015 Nissan GT-R Nismo edition does very well on a smaller track like Big Willow yet the 2017 standard edition GT-R at Laguna Seca trails the Carrera S. The Nismo package appears to make quite the difference.
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    Wait, shouldn't the headline read 991.1 Turbo and GT3? I thought the refresh was in '16. Still, crazy how quickly car performance has been evolving recently.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
    Wait, shouldn't the headline read 991.1 Turbo and GT3? I thought the refresh was in '16. Still, crazy how quickly car performance has been evolving recently.
    Typo on the 991.2, sorry.
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    That Grand Sport keeps impressing in every test. Hell of a car.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BlackJetE90OC Click here to enlarge
    That Grand Sport keeps impressing in every test. Hell of a car.
    Indeed it is. Best buy in the Corvette range, IMO.

    Just like how the Carrera is the best buy in the 911 range.
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    The tyres get better and better. Thats i think is the biggest difference.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SVP03 Click here to enlarge
    The tyres get better and better. Thats i think is the biggest difference.
    A factor for sure but the Carrera took a huge leap forward.
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    The Carrera S continues to amaze. The times would have to be achieved with the car fully loaded with every performance feature like rear steering and the active anti roll bars etc.

    The ZO6 times are amazing, but for me, it's nowhere near as easy or confidence inspiring to drive at the max on the track compared to a GT3.

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    The Huracan for this test was shod with Trofeo R tires, which DO NOT come on the car. Thus, I call into question it's time. If I recall correctly, it comes with P Zero's from the factory. This should have been what the timed lap was done on, not the near-racing Trofeo R.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by danb Click here to enlarge
    The Huracan for this test was shod with Trofeo R tires, which DO NOT come on the car. Thus, I call into question it's time. If I recall correctly, it comes with P Zero's from the factory. This should have been what the timed lap was done on, not the near-racing Trofeo R.
    There's isn't a choice in the configurator for different rims so you're probably right.
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