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    JB4 Logs: Help reading

    Car is a 2008 335i Sedan, Auto, 19,500 miles. JB4 G4 18ohm, DCI, Mobil 93. Map 1, 3rd gear pull. Stock rims/runflats, AC off. TC fully off. 85 degrees out.

    Do these logs look good? These were 3 fairly consecutive pulls.
    -What is the optimum AFR range?
    -Timing info?
    -Throttle info?

    Thanks guys!

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    Looks all pretty normal for map 1. IAT is ending over 150 so that is pulling down advance a bit in a couple of the runs.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Looks all pretty normal for map 1. IAT is ending over 150 so that is pulling down advance a bit in a couple of the runs.

    Thanks Terry. I emailed you earlier. Do you think I should get a FMIC or DP's next?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Thanks Terry. I emailed you earlier. Do you think I should get a FMIC or DP's next?
    I'm not Terry Click here to enlarge but I vote FMIC for sure!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Thanks Terry. I emailed you earlier. Do you think I should get a FMIC or DP's next?
    It really comes down to your needs. If you want higher gains at the seat of the pants, definitely downpipes. If you want prettier logs, probably a FMIC. Or do both! Click here to enlarge
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    Thanks guys. I think i'm going to get the ER FMIC because it replaces all the crappy piping and is 6" Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Thanks guys. I think i'm going to get the ER FMIC because it replaces all the crappy piping and is 6" Click here to enlarge
    FMIC is the right choice buddy!

    If you don't mind me asking, why ER? Reason I ask is because my friend here has it and we did tons of runs with both cars back to back. He has ER and I have the ETS 7", and mine was performing better. The biggest difference was recovery time after a couple of runs, or after driving in traffic.
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    Go with any proven FMIC (AA, AMS, ETS, ER, Helix), as long as you're not tracking the car, a 5" core would be completely fine
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    FMIC is the right choice buddy!

    If you don't mind me asking, why ER? Reason I ask is because my friend here has it and we did tons of runs with both cars back to back. He has ER and I have the ETS 7", and mine was performing better. The biggest difference was recovery time after a couple of runs, or after driving in traffic.
    I honestly don't know what to go with. I like the fact that the ER and ETS replace all of the piping, I like the AMS end tank design, and I like the Helix for the core. I'm having a tough time deciding! Lol

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Go with any proven FMIC (AA, AMS, ETS, ER, Helix), as long as you're not tracking the car, a 5" core would be completely fine
    Sounds good. I basically narrowed it down to ER, ETS, and HELIX. I would go for Helix in a second but I am worried about retaining the stock piping. Is this an issue?


    Also for both of you, I see you have pre-LCI E90's (same here). Does the actual FMIC grill opening have an impact on anything FMIC related? It seems to me to be very small compared to on the LCI and M-Sport bumpers?

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    Hpf is nice tooClick here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Cn555ic Click here to enlarge
    Hpf is nice tooClick here to enlarge
    Will consider it as well. It loooks to me like the ETS 7" without the piping?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    Will consider it as well. It loooks to me like the ETS 7" without the piping?
    Both 5 and 7" have piping. I have the 7" and it did come with the upgraded plumbing.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    Both 5 and 7" have piping. I have the 7" and it did come with the upgraded plumbing.
    No, I mean the HPS looks like the ETS 7" but dousn't include the piping like ETS does

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    No, I mean the HPS looks like the ETS 7" but dousn't include the piping like ETS does
    oh got it... yeah you're right. And it's 300$ more expensive I believe.
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    I did a bunch of research and ended up on the Wagner FMIC. My delta on a 3rd gear pull is no more than 5 degrees F now. Butt dyno said throttle response improved. Do know that WGDC will go up with an fmic since temp goes down. I highly recommend it for the price... Also put some E85 in... even just a little and your timing won't look like that.

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    dont remember logging map 1 is the throttle closers normal ? ER buddy !!! lol

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cwarren Click here to enlarge
    dont remember logging map 1 is the throttle closers normal ? ER buddy !!! lol

    I want to know too, I guess it is.

    I topped off my 3/4 tank of 93 Mobil with 1 gallon of E85 today to try and see if that will fix the timing drops. First time using E85 so I want to take it light. I will relog and update the thread tommorow Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cwarren Click here to enlarge
    dont remember logging map 1 is the throttle closers normal ? ER buddy !!! lol
    What's up dude? Are we working on your meth controller this weekend??
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cwarren Click here to enlarge
    dont remember logging map 1 is the throttle closers normal ? ER buddy !!! lol
    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    I want to know too, I guess it is.

    I topped off my 3/4 tank of 93 Mobil with 1 gallon of E85 today to try and see if that will fix the timing drops. First time using E85 so I want to take it light. I will relog and update the thread tommorow Click here to enlarge
    No no don't listen to him, he's trying to trick into buying ER Click here to enlarge
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    http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759601

    should look into this lol cheap fmic

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cwarren Click here to enlarge
    http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=759601

    should look into this lol cheap fmic
    I saw this btw, they don't have any deals on the 7", and he needs to make sure it's the new 5" design. I read somewhere they had had two designs...
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    hope so ! havnt recieved it yet Click here to enlarge have a great idea for placement too ...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cwarren Click here to enlarge
    hope so ! havnt recieved it yet Click here to enlarge have a great idea for placement too ...
    no tracking?
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    nope

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by E90Company Click here to enlarge
    I want to know too, I guess it is.

    I topped off my 3/4 tank of 93 Mobil with 1 gallon of E85 today to try and see if that will fix the timing drops. First time using E85 so I want to take it light. I will relog and update the thread tommorow Click here to enlarge
    I'd be interested in seeing. Also, go for a 30% mix and throw it into Map 5, get 3rd gear pull done... you will be blown away.

    (Make sure your firmware is at least end of July or later btw)

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