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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    redline MTF fluid works GREAT!


    I run shockproof in mine, just because of the power i'm making (and I dont whine about cold oil characteristics)
    thanks, is all i plan on putting in it! Click here to enlarge

    tried D4-ATF in my current trans, and it's still going alright (was butter smooth for 5k though haha), after reading some recommendations.. but seems MT-90 is the go according to that recent thread?

    i understand shockproof is used in higher mileage transmissions? (and really high load ones i guess?).. would you recommend a few hundred-couple thousand miles of shockproof over the MT-90 *if* it feels like there's any issues with it after install? (or an otherwise general recommendation haha) (if there would be any benefit.. just read a couple of threads where people ran it for a while and it fixed some shifting issues) / would the MT-90 hold up well at really high power levels?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
    If you are referring to the several rather large empty holes, they are for various motor mount configurations for other chassis and the front drive components for the X-Drives (those components bolt onto the engine block instead of the subframe).
    yes, the bigger ones, in a roughly right angle-ish triangle (from memory)

    thanks Click here to enlarge, that's roughly what i assumed (pattern of the holes looked like an engine mount would fit on)
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    I run shock proof, because i need all the help I can get keeping differentials and transmissions alive with my power levels. personally, I like it.

    for most of my customers, MTL redline oil will be the way to go for shift quality and drivability. I'm not saying shockproof is bad, but its not buttery smooth like MTL is.... it also doesn't have the shear value shock proof has.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    I run shock proof, because i need all the help I can get keeping differentials and transmissions alive with my power levels. personally, I like it.

    for most of my customers, MTL redline oil will be the way to go for shift quality and drivability. I'm not saying shockproof is bad, but its not buttery smooth like MTL is.... it also doesn't have the shear value shock proof has.
    thanks

    so MTL/MT90 for more reasonable cars, shockproof for abuse-prone cars?

    you're over 1k horsepower yeah?
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    I'm making about 750hp/850tq at the crank

    the bumblebee that ICS built had over 1000hp, and it would literally just snap the front input shaft clean off......
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    I'm making about 750hp/850tq at the crank

    the bumblebee that ICS built had over 1000hp, and it would literally just snap the front input shaft clean off......
    i'm guessing it's that 850 ft-lb that's the potential problem moreso than the 750hp? haha

    ... just had a read of ICS's.. damn, 1025+ WHP. that's stout.
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    bulged a disc yesterday, so i can't do much in the way off stuff now, can't get the head off without becoming a cripple realistically haha

    ... i'm stuck getting the valve cover off though, how do i get the earth posts off?

    my 3/8th sockets are WAY too big

    and the 1/4+ socket is too small?

    is there a size between 3/8 and 1/4 i can use?

    all i can see is like:

    http://imageshack.us/a/img100/1151/step12z.jpg

    .. yeah how does the 1/4" go all the way down? my socket hits on the square bit Click here to enlarge (and it's not a cheap one either, sidchrome) (regardless, my socket isn't long enough, i'm just stumped as to how to even fit a 1/4" on there!)
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    Special tool


    honestly, a cheapo 3/8 socket without a shoulder inside the socket, and the extension not fully seated in the back of it will remove it.

    if not, a cheap special tool made out of a pressed piece of tubing is what BMW sells.

    118620 is the part number (since i have one Click here to enlarge)


    IF you are going to play with the cams, you WILL NEED a special tool jig set that is about 500 bucks to re-align the cam trays.

    plus the timing tools.

    tread lightly sir.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    Special tool


    honestly, a cheapo 3/8 socket without a shoulder inside the socket, and the extension not fully seated in the back of it will remove it.

    if not, a cheap special tool made out of a pressed piece of tubing is what BMW sells.

    118620 is the part number (since i have one Click here to enlarge)


    IF you are going to play with the cams, you WILL NEED a special tool jig set that is about 500 bucks to re-align the cam trays.

    plus the timing tools.

    tread lightly sir.
    mm damn, thanks haha - you're unbelievably helpful Click here to enlarge

    mmm i saw that on other threads, older BMW's coming with a really thin long one

    i'll have to check my local hardware store for a thin 3/8th.. my 3/8th set is quite a number of millimeters too thick where the socket mounts (i guess that's what you get with a super strong set though hah), to actually slide down the post.. despite also not being long enough anyway... just thought everyone i can find may have been using a special too lol

    as for the timing stuff..

    well i found > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BMW-N51-N...50cce40&_uhb=1

    however, due to the very.. damage-y nature of getting the timing wrong, that's something i may (almost certainly) pay the workshop to reassemble for me... i'm pretty confident with stumbling through most of it.. just not so much things that can cost me a LOT of money Click here to enlarge

    quite happy to bolt on everything else to the outside though lol

    seriously, 99% of the problems i've had with this is 'wtf kinda tool am i meant to use!!'.. and the bentley manual i have, hasn't helped... it's instructions for removing the flywheel are 'remove flywheel'.. no mention of a T60 bit (which is impossible to get locally by the way hah).. or even what sized socket i need for the rear axle nut... what a waste of money that was lol.

    the hardest part for reassembly looks like it's going to be having all relevant fasteners... which just means time, more than anything. (i really should have kept them all safe and labelled in containers like i intended... like i did with the harness)

    having trouble finding where to buy the special tool #118620 though - just in case i have no luck locally.

    ED:

    found the parts PDF

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    83 30 0 495 751 / 118 620 WAF 10 Socket / 04 30 06

    hm

    ED: got it - http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site..._751/ES200045/

    for $25pp though (i'm sure i could find it cheaper), gonnnna have to bank on finding a cheap local socket haha
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    your missing the tools that hold the cam trays.

    83-30-0-495-739
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    your missing the tools that hold the cam trays.

    83-30-0-495-739
    they're not a part of the kit in that ebay link?

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BMW-N51-N...3ec1c6f&_uhb=1 either?

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    • Included: #110300 T.D.C. Pin, #114280 Camshaft Alignment Jig, #114290 Setting Gauge, #118520 Setting Gauge.hmm



    hmm

    >
    83 30 0 495 739 / 118 550 / Bearing Fixture

    ED:

    yeah i can't find it anywhere bar ECStuning for $700 lol

    even this thread comes up near the top on google!
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    nope.


    Dealer sells it as well. Dealer only item, really.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    nope.


    Dealer sells it as well. Dealer only item, really.
    ah really? so actually no chance of reassembling without it really? ridiculous haha

    i can find older ones like > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BMW-Camsh...4a4bd00&_uhb=1

    and N52 > http://www.amazon.com/Exhaust-Camsha.../dp/B007F3096U

    but nothing for N54

    just the > timing/camshaft alignment tools

    -_-

    guess that settles the 'get workshop to do assembly and timing for me' part though hah

    thanks
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    The second link @ amazon is what it looks like, but the N52 kit doesn't work on the N54 engine Click here to enlarge


    Trust me, I have both kits lol


    And I bet you money the "workshop" doesn't have these tools either (unless you take it to the dealer)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    The second link @ amazon is what it looks like, but the N52 kit doesn't work on the N54 engine Click here to enlarge


    Trust me, I have both kits lol


    And I bet you money the "workshop" doesn't have these tools either (unless you take it to the dealer)
    haha, yeah i figured

    so weird though.. either "83 30 0 495 739" (exact search) or "118 550" literally do not come up with a single (relevant) google result. you've failed me google! (the first search moreso, literally half a page of nothing useful other than parts directories)

    i'm assuming they will have, being they pretty well constantly have more than one N54 disassembled for upgrades in their shop (mainly for sponsored track cars i believe)... best ask them though i guess lol

    on that note... people who've gotten modified heads (say dzenno for one.. or heads shipped from VAC).. how have they reassembled their heads inc cams if the tools are so incredibly rare?

    ... it's either that, or literally impossible for me to reassemble the engine....
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    I dont know. couldnt tell ya dude.

    i know MY cams and cam trays are put in right.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    I dont know. couldnt tell ya dude.

    i know MY cams and cam trays are put in right.
    Pay to play. Damn right? Thats what keeps you and me in business(different industry) and kicking Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    I dont know. couldnt tell ya dude.

    i know MY cams and cam trays are put in right.
    fair enough haha

    what does the tool actually do? It's for putting the cams IN the trays themselves i take it?.. Then the other kit is for putting in the cams+trays and timing it?


    but like i said, either one of the big euro performance shops/n54 experienced shops has it and can put it together for me... Or.. Yeah i dunno what to do haha
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    aligns the upper/lower cam trays exactly true so the bearing journals are aligned.
    it also compresses 2 valves to help with installing the camshafts


    the other kit is for timing it.


    ok- last post, Im going to Cancun tomorrow morning to fix some BMW's Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    Pay to play. Damn right? Thats what keeps you and me in business(different industry) and kicking Click here to enlarge
    Yeah... I guess i'm used to that in my industry a bit lol.. Though tools/equipment that is fairly universal for every job, not just one job on one engine haha
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by alex@ABRhouston Click here to enlarge
    aligns the upper/lower cam trays exactly true so the bearing journals are aligned.
    it also compresses 2 valves to help with installing the camshafts


    the other kit is for timing it.


    ok- last post, Im going to Cancun tomorrow morning to fix some BMW's Click here to enlarge
    Ahh righto, yeah i'm sure i can find somewhere for that as surely one of the shops has to replace the trays in their rebuilds lol - will find out on monday Click here to enlarge

    thanks heaps for your help, and enjoy cancun! Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    Yeah... I guess i'm used to that in my industry a bit lol.. Though tools/equipment that is fairly universal for every job, not just one job on one engine haha
    The might as well make separate tools to loosen and tighten.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    The might as well make separate tools to loosen and tighten.
    hah, i almost wouldn't doubt it
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    Still waiting on the deep socket to get the valve cover off to get the head off etc.

    might take the sump off sometime soon when i can be bothered
    @Kirstie.tyson picked up her 08 BSM 135i last night, sooo yeah, she has the manly car in the relationship right now Click here to enlarge

    needs an exhaust and tune pretty desperately though imo Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Flinchy Click here to enlarge
    Still waiting on the deep socket to get the valve cover off to get the head off etc.

    might take the sump off sometime soon when i can be bothered
    Kirstie.tyson picked up her 08 BSM 135i last night, sooo yeah, she has the manly car in the relationship right now Click here to enlarge

    needs an exhaust and tune pretty desperately though imo Click here to enlarge
    cheers Flinchy but you chose the hatch, that was your own fault

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