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    Which inline pump would u crecommend?!
    Walbro GSL392 ?!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Kollegga Click here to enlarge
    Which inline pump would u crecommend?!
    Walbro GSL392 ?!
    I ordered one because they are cheap and accessible, but I'm not sure it's the ideal candidate for this platform. As I said I've been slacking on the fueling project as other things have had my interest but I'm getting back to the point now with our development car that more fuel is needed. So in the near future I'll get the pump on and share some data.
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    Lol I been saying he was running something for those LPFP issues forever and of course he denied it and attributed it to his magical flash. Gee who's right again, sigh.

    Silly shiv running his business like apple.

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    Hey, he's getting stuff done regardless. Plenty of people have inventive ideas but getting a prototype to market is the majority of the battle.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Lol I been saying he was running something for those LPFP issues forever and of course he denied it and attributed it to his magical flash. Gee who's right again, sigh.

    Silly shiv running his business like apple.
    All the public dynos of my car were done without the extra pump. It only becomes a problem when you approach the 700whp on E85. Single turbo cars up till this point have not needed the pump upgrade. It's just the next step. Time to be happy that everyone can use it.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
    All the public dynos of my car were done without the extra pump. It only becomes a problem when you approach the 700whp on E85. Single turbo cars up till this point have not needed the pump upgrade. It's just the next step. Time to be happy that everyone can use it.
    No ones saying that his customers used the pump. My point is that he is withholding information and being secretive when we knew the truth, and spun it in a way that tried to make his product better than it really is. Again, it's shiv, not his product that's the problem. I understand you have somewhat of a vested interest defending what you own (human nature) but I wasn't bashing the product, I was bashing the lies. Sorry if it offended you.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
    All the public dynos of my car were done without the extra pump. It only becomes a problem when you approach the 700whp on E85. Single turbo cars up till this point have not needed the pump upgrade. It's just the next step. Time to be happy that everyone can use it.
    You're telling me the stock LPFP is good to 700whp with E85???? Logs please.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    You're telling me the stock LPFP is good to 700whp with E85???? Logs please.

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    yeah with 4 meth nozzles no problems
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    Are you running meth?
    my quote was referred to rbs e85 no meh.
    Testing both but 440hp 60/40 e85/93 no meth AFR is SOLID. lpfp is struggling at onset of WOT but i see some 100% e85 testing in my future once I get this pump upgrade. I had ordered an oem lpfp just in case I killed mine but with this news I've cancelled my order for now. Fingers crosses.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    yeah with 4 meth nozzles no problems
    Lol. Yeah basically.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    yeah with 4 meth nozzles no problems
    Haha yup with meth Click here to enlarge Probably about 650 max without. (guessing) 600 is already proven. Need fuel.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    No ones saying that his customers used the pump. My point is that he is withholding information and being secretive when we knew the truth, and spun it in a way that tried to make his product better than it really is. Again, it's shiv, not his product that's the problem. I understand you have somewhat of a vested interest defending what you own (human nature) but I wasn't bashing the product, I was bashing the lies. Sorry if it offended you.
    I'm not offended. I'm just saying the flash works.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
    Haha yup with meth Click here to enlarge Probably about 650 max without. (guessing) 600 is already proven. Need fuel.
    600whp with no meth on e85? What E85 ratio?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rudypoochris Click here to enlarge
    You're telling me the stock LPFP is good to 700whp with E85???? Logs please.

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    LMAO the stock LPFP isn't even good for 475 whp on E85 / 93 octane blend on RBs. Gotta throw meth at it for lots and lots of ghetto fueling Click here to enlarge

    Single turbos are a different animal though, 600 whp without methanol is definitely possible and has been shown as such.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Single turbos are a different animal though, 600 whp without methanol is definitely possible and has been shown as such.
    But with E85? I guess it doesn't really matter what way you run it, but it would be nice to run E85 in whatever setup since that will get you to the last nth degree of performance on pump. E85 is almost as easy to get as 91 for me in the Bay Area.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    Testing both but 440hp 60/40 e85/93 no meth AFR is SOLID. lpfp is struggling at onset of WOT but i see some 100% e85 testing in my future once I get this pump upgrade. I had ordered an oem lpfp just in case I killed mine but with this news I've cancelled my order for now. Fingers crosses.
    So thats E60? i use E50-
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    So thats E60? i use E50-
    That's certainly less than 60%, a lot less in winter time.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
    That's certainly less than 60%, a lot less in winter time.
    we should all really use always the same way of stating the E content .
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    we should all really use always the same way of stating the E content .
    haha yeah, you're right. i'm using 5 gal e85 (85% Ethanol .85/.15) and 4 gal 93 (90% 93 .9/.1) according to my math that's

    4.25+.4=4.65 Ethanol
    .75+3.6=4.35 93
    8gal/4.65 Ethanol content
    58.125% Ethanol
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    Ok looks like my math is a little off. That's 9gal/4.65 gal ethanol=51.66%. Once I get a new fuel pump ill def increase the e85% till I get to 100%
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    Thread on e90post tonight about the first customer car with the fuel solution installed, the customer states it's an inline booster pump.

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    : yawn: this is so old school technology. Start with the issues by increasing line diameter. Overall pressure will go down a little but volume will increase, and give more buffer.

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    I started to play around with mounting an inline but at the last moment decided to try another in tank first. First I installed a new OEM one to see if mine is compromised or worn out. What a PITA getting that sealing ring off! Unfortunately the new OEM pump didn't help anything. So I've also ordered a Walbro F90000267 which I'll attempt to mount in the spare fuel assembly I have here. It's apparently well proven with E85 setups and capable of supporting quite a bit of power. Although, few run it at 72psi. If I can't work that out then I'll resort to the inline.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I started to play around with mounting an inline but at the last moment decided to try another in tank first. First I installed a new OEM one to see if mine is compromised or worn out. What a PITA getting that sealing ring off! Unfortunately the new OEM pump didn't help anything. So I've also ordered a Walbro F90000267 which I'll attempt to mount in the spare fuel assembly I have here. It's apparently well proven with E85 setups and capable of supporting quite a bit of power. Although, few run it at 72psi. If I can't work that out then I'll resort to the inline.
    Terry did you try the E92 M3, other higher power BMW pump, or just literally a stock pump?

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    So just to clarify, shiv's running an inline booster pump that's inside the gas tank? Is that usually how there installed? I thought they were normally installed somewhere in between the tank and the engine? I was hoping for a complete LPFP replacement...oh well we'll see how it turns out. I guess something is better than nothing.

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