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    ProEFI has an N54 standalone? Do tell...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 135pats Click here to enlarge
    ProEFI has an N54 standalone? Do tell...
    lol, not exactly. I'm sure if they focused their efforts they could knock it out in little time. Seems no one cares to invest R&D into the N54.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    lol, not exactly. I'm sure if they focused their efforts they could knock it out in little time. Seems no one cares to invest R&D into the N54.
    This platform has kicked a lot of tuners/vendors in the teeth when it comes to serious upgrades. Sucks because the motor is ready to make big power….there are just so many other parts that we don’t have solutions to.

    I will be shocked if a viable port/direct port solution comes along for the N54 in 2014, hell even in 2015.
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    Ok......... Were about $350,000 short on having the DI code. It must be purchased. We have exhausted all resources and I'm personally about 25k$ out matching ProEFI's 25k$. One of 2 things will take place. Either a group of smart people with way too much time on their hands will reverse engineer this or a much larger company will spend the money on code for it. Unfortunately the business decision was made at texas 2k last week that this is currently a loss for all of us. I can't express how disappointed I am about this. Our intentions were certainly not to let anyone down.

    At this point I have a very nice well equipt 2008 135i, M package for sale that I have only enjoyed for 3k miles in the last 3 years.

    This will be revisited in the future. But for now its time to move on.
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by undercover Click here to enlarge
    Ok......... Were about $350,000 short on having the DI code. It must be purchased. We have exhausted all resources and I'm personally about 25k$ out matching ProEFI's 25k$. One of 2 things will take place. Either a group of smart people with way too much time on their hands will reverse engineer this or a much larger company will spend the money on code for it. Unfortunately the business decision was made at texas 2k last week that this is currently a loss for all of us. I can't express how disappointed I am about this. Our intentions were certainly not to let anyone down.

    At this point I have a very nice well equipt 2008 135i, M package for sale that I have only enjoyed for 3k miles in the last 3 years.

    This will be revisited in the future. But for now its time to move on.
    Disappointing but understandable, you guys are in the business of turning a profit, not chasing down six figure whims.
    This fuel system has beat the crap out of everyone who has tried to mess with it outside of normal booster pumps. Intense.
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    Unfortunate that this isn't in the cards right now, but it's a matter of time until the DI code is unlocked and reverse engineered on every mainstream standalone since a lot of the high level cars are moving DI -- Porsche 997.2 + 991 Turbo/Turbo S, Audi R8 V10/Lambo Gallardo V10/presumably the new Huracan, the C7 Corvette, the next gen S55 M3/M4, etc etc.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Unfortunate that this isn't in the cards right now, but it's a matter of time until the DI code is unlocked and reverse engineered on every mainstream standalone since a lot of the high level cars are moving DI -- Porsche 997.2 + 991 Turbo/Turbo S, Audi R8 V10/Lambo Gallardo V10/presumably the new Huracan, the C7 Corvette, the next gen S55 M3/M4, etc etc.
    There are going to be significant differences among those platforms and the Huracan has direct and port injection so vastly different from this.

    The sophistication in an ECU also will wildly differ between those. Pectel does have an N54 capable standalone but it's something like $12k or more. There's a reason why nobody but pro teams are trying it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The sophistication in an ECU also will wildly differ between those. Pectel does have an N54 capable standalone but it's something like $12k or more. There's a reason why nobody but pro teams are trying it.
    Only natural that getting a standalone to work with the BMW DME would be at least two times more difficult then any other car. 12k is a tough sale (pretty sure Motec has something, price was prob the same ballpark), but it would be nice if someone reverse engineered that and got a very solid tuning platform & potentially a fueling solution.


    Just food for thought (and the people who read through the Alpha 20 GTR threads might of noticed this), but that setup runs off a crank driven fuel pump. Any chance something like that could be adapted to the N54? Assuming that might be crossing the light from street to full-fledged race car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    There are going to be significant differences among those platforms and the Huracan has direct and port injection so vastly different from this.

    The sophistication in an ECU also will wildly differ between those. Pectel does have an N54 capable standalone but it's something like $12k or more. There's a reason why nobody but pro teams are trying it.

    Nobody has a DI solution for a street car. We can make this work identical to Motec and Pectel. Its functional..... Kinda..... Not Really...
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    I probably run as much boost as you do fuel pressure

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by undercover Click here to enlarge
    Nobody has a DI solution for a street car. We can make this work identical to Motec and Pectel. Its functional..... Kinda..... Not Really...
    Does that mean using a Motec solutions such as this is only good for a stripped out race car running another dash?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
    Does that mean using a Motec solutions such as this is only good for a stripped out race car running another dash?
    That solution is fine for a race car but not a street car...

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    I got that, I was asking why?
    Is it because none of the other systems in the car will work?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
    I got that, I was asking why?
    Is it because none of the other systems in the car will work?
    More than likely requires LOTS of extra coding if you want to keep the OEM features happy (Comfort Access, NAV, Gauges, etc etc).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Nugs Click here to enlarge
    I got that, I was asking why?
    Is it because none of the other systems in the car will work?
    It's a matter of getting the factory electronics to all play nice. If you're ditching everything including the dash it's not a big deal. But for a street car it wouldn't work and that is why you see most approaches utilize the factory DME.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    We haven't seen it running as a standalone on the N54.
    I've heard something to the effect that it ran on port injection only, but that was triple grape vine status.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It's a matter of getting the factory electronics to all play nice. If you're ditching everything including the dash it's not a big deal. But for a street car it wouldn't work and that is why you see most approaches utilize the factory DME.
    Cool, that is what I assumed, I was just asking Undercover to confirm.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by undercover Click here to enlarge
    Nobody has a DI solution for a street car. We can make this work identical to Motec and Pectel. Its functional..... Kinda..... Not Really...
    Would it be functional as a supplemental PI only injector driver on a street car? I know you were trying to control the DI, but what about just supplementing only? N20 control possible? I know a lot of the coolness of the ProEFI is lost by neutering it, but this is still something that some people want which is not solved.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    Would it be functional as a supplemental PI only injector driver on a street car? I know you were trying to control the DI, but what about just supplementing only? N20 control possible? I know a lot of the coolness of the ProEFI is lost by neutering it, but this is still something that some people want which is not solved.
    Didn't they build a PI manifold and had the entire car wired up. Why they didn't try the PI?

    What is undercover doing with the manifold now? Hell give it to Terry to play with. If he can make it work now you have a product to sell, make back some of your money on this project.
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    I know Garth knows, but i don't think Jason at ProEFI realizes how many Pro128 ecu's he would sell if he designed a harness for the N54 weather it is PI or if he takes the time to decode the DI. Im sure a lot of people would run PI if they could have the benefits of a ProEFI. ProEFI+N54 would be unreal

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    Decoding the DI will happen. Just probably not by ProEFI. The technology will become readily available in the future. Its where we are heading. Just everyone pray it happens before we are all driving electric golf carts to work.

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    There are plenty of cars out there for everyone to make a living off of.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Only natural that getting a standalone to work with the BMW DME would be at least two times more difficult then any other car. 12k is a tough sale (pretty sure Motec has something, price was prob the same ballpark), but it would be nice if someone reverse engineered that and got a very solid tuning platform & potentially a fueling solution.


    Just food for thought (and the people who read through the Alpha 20 GTR threads might of noticed this), but that setup runs off a crank driven fuel pump. Any chance something like that could be adapted to the N54? Assuming that might be crossing the light from street to full-fledged race car.
    Our HPFP pump is ran mechanically as well, I think almost all HPFP's are actually, would be too hard to run electrically
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    Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with supplemental PI, I don't see why that would be so complicated? Why can't the JB4 control it? Or even a dedicated box by BMS or anyone for that matter to control AFR's?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Why can't the JB4 control it?
    It doesn't have anywhere near that kind of capability. It isn't an ECU.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mjmarovi Click here to enlarge
    Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with supplemental PI, I don't see why that would be so complicated? Why can't the JB4 control it? Or even a dedicated box by BMS or anyone for that matter to control AFR's?
    Maybe you could set it up to batch fire supplemental injectors or something. But as a standalone fuel manager, a piggyback like that is nowhere near capable enough. Just not meant for it. But that would be sweet.
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