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    What a cluster$#@! of an enginebay, can you imagine trying to install downpipes or an intake?
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    I wonder how the car will perform in our hot weather....
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    Popping the hood on the 2014 F80 M3 reveals a cramped engine bay sporting 450+ horsepower turbocharged inline-6 cylinder

    Here is a peak into the engine bay of the upcoming 2014 F80 M3. And yes, that engine bay definitely looks to be tight so working on it is not going to be a ton of fun. With the cramped bay and turbo (or multiple turbos) heat management will be an issue. That is why you see an aluminum water to air intercooler sitting on top of the motor. As far as power, with the new M5 sporting around 520-530 wheel horsepower stock, the new M3 should be within 100 wheel of that based on precedent.

    The E39 M5 put out about 340 wheel horsepower stock. The E46 M3 did about 275 so the E46 M3 had about 80% the horsepower of the E39 M5. The E92 M3 puts out about 350 wheel stock compared to the roughly 420 wheel horsepower of the E60 M5 which means it had 83% of the E60 M5's horsepower. If this is to follow with the new model, which it likely will to maintain the hierarchy, we can expect the new M3 to put out in the ~430 wheel horsepower range on a dynojet.

    Time will tell and as soon as more specs are revealed BimmerBoost will bring them to you.

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    Really interested to find out more about this engine. That chassis stiffening is pretty cool. IC and intake design looks really cool - and not totally clear to me what is going where...

    Based on the videos of it floating around, the exhaust note sounds pretty crappy at the moment. Hopefully they can make it sound nice. Also BMW, please please please do not have fake exhaust sounds in the M3.

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    Am I the only person that notices that there is a airbox per turbo?
    If you remove the fat intake pipe in the front and the braces the engine bay does not look so cramped. Hell with the N54 you could never fit such a fat pipe across the front of the motor. BMW has really pushed the engine back, its going to handle great.

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    I thought the tube across the front was the pressure side of the turbos

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
    Am I the only person that notices that there is a airbox per turbo?
    If you remove the fat intake pipe in the front and the braces the engine bay does not look so cramped. Hell with the N54 you could never fit such a fat pipe across the front of the motor. BMW has really pushed the engine back, its going to handle great.
    I noticed it too George, but I didn't think it was a big deal.

    When I was doing surface area calculations for the air filter on my 330i, I realized really fast how under-sized most FI kits are. BMW appears to have got it right, using similar airbox sizing to the X5M etc....this car obviously has some serious breathing capability.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by black bnr32 Click here to enlarge
    I thought the tube across the front was the pressure side of the turbos
    hotpipes are the ones going over the backside of the valve cover into the air/water intercooler and straight into the TB. Nice short piping.

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    Picture makes me love my e36 m3 turbo that much more.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GG///M3 Click here to enlarge
    Picture makes me love my e36 m3 turbo that much more.
    Why?

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    Looks like a n55 engine to me, however with 2 turbos. You can see the two air boxes, each turbo has one, and you can see the maf sensor on the passenger side box. Have fun with Shiv feeding bull$#@! to m3 guys.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    Have fun with Shiv feeding bull$#@! to m3 guys.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Why?

    Looks a lot more simple under the hood then the new m3 is all. I'm sure its going to be a super fast car with the dct trans. Can't wait to see what the tuners do with it.
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    While the performance of new BMs speaks for itself, I fall more and more in love with the S54 daily.

    In the world of BMW engines that is my favorite, with the S65 just behind it. It's def not the 'best' engine, but it is has both character and great performance. If you haven't heard a 450+ hp n/a S54 - you need to - $#@!ing amazing.

    With that said, I cant wait to see the final specs on the new M3. It will have much more TQ than the S65 and more HP. If they get it to rev AND sound like a 2JZGTE I'm sure purists will get over it ;-)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
    While the performance of new BMs speaks for itself, I fall more and more in love with the S54 daily.

    In the world of BMW engines that is my favorite, with the S65 just behind it. It's def not the 'best' engine, but it is has both character and great performance. If you haven't heard a 450+ hp n/a S54 - you need to - $#@!ing amazing.

    With that said, I cant wait to see the final specs on the new M3. It will have much more TQ than the S65 and more HP. If they get it to rev AND sound like a 2JZGTE I'm sure purists will get over it ;-)

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    I'm curious to see if it will have the "electric" turbo like the M power diesel's do in EU?
    The tri-turbo Mx50D diesels in Europe do not have electric turbo.

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    Yeah I got it now. They're sequential ordinary turbod. I read last year about this electric "turbo" I guess it didn't make it into production.
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    Another thing you guys might find interesting is the tape on the engine cover is pretty long covering something possibly lettering. Is BMW going back to the M Power wording and dropping the M Badge or is this another motor we are looking at?
    Another thing is that everything seems to be very high in the engine bay. Is this to make space below what would traditionally be intake manifold space for a electric dynamo of some sort coupled to the flywheel?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mike@VAC Click here to enlarge
    I fall more and more in love with the S54 daily.

    In the world of BMW engines that is my favorite, with the S65 just behind it. It's def not the 'best' engine, but it is has both character and great performance. If you haven't heard a 450+ hp n/a S54 - you need to - $#@!ing amazing.
    I would strongly agree with this.

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    According to some insideinformation the new M3 will have a 480 hp twin turbo, DCT and the same off differential as the F10 M5, it will also be 120 kg lighter,
    Sounds promising !

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Pea Click here to enlarge
    According to some insideinformation the new M3 will have a 480 hp twin turbo, DCT and the same off differential as the F10 M5, it will also be 120 kg lighter,
    Sounds promising !
    If they can make it lighter...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If they can make it lighter...

    Hmmm... here's a MPower Triturbo diesel picture with similar intercooling.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by m54b25 Click here to enlarge
    Hmmm... here's a MPower Triturbo diesel picture with similar intercooling.
    Do you have any more pics of this?

    Looks like the same intercooler setup, interesting. Good post!

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    That is ridiculously tight in that bay!!!!!! Puts me off the idea of tinkering with it!

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    Positioning of that cooler suggests BMW think they can eliminate lag by reducing and reducing the amount of air between the turbos and inlet. Could they get any closer if they even tried?

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