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    ASR Closed-Intake Installed!

    Hey guys, the new ASR intake is now in final production and ready for sale and distribution. I was really impressed by the final form, the powder-coating is flawless and the brackets and fitment was perfect. The welds are nearly hidden by the powder coat and the lexan just makes it flashy

    On a dyno, with a $#@!ty fan, you wont see the gain, so I havn't gone to the dyno yet, a real improvement will be on the road

    Let me know what you all think

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    Looks kick ass. Cant wait to hear your review on it.

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    It's a neat looking intake, but the restriction point is the factory snorkel. Certainly not going to be ideal for power vs. the tried and true $139 dual cone intake. Glad they removed the gold wrap, though.

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    Wow! Looks sick. OP, any dynos?

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    dynos soon to come, im running v4 stage4 at stock user adjs.
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    wow, dyno plzzzz Click here to enlarge

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    Wow, that looks solid! Nice job ASR.
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    damn that looks so clean I must say that is a great job and if I had a 335i I would get this intake for sure!
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    I really like the closed setup. This will probably flow better than the other dual cone intake setups bc this uses the stock airflow intake pipe. Plus, it probably won't be as loud, which I love stealth setups.
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    Just for the sake of conversation which this forum desperately needs. Click here to enlarge How can it outflow the factory airbox when its feeding from the same restrictive 3x4" opening? The filter itself has never been the problem with the factory airbox. It's the tiny snorkel.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Just for the sake of conversation which this forum desperately needs. Click here to enlarge How can it outflow the factory airbox when its feeding from the same restrictive 3x4" opening? The filter itself has never been the problem with the factory airbox. It's the tiny snorkel.
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    You raise an interesting point.

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    now i did not design this product, so it may be too quick of a reply for me to make. abid is much more knowledgable on this product than i am so forgive me if i maker a fool of myself Click here to enlarge please call abid if this laymens explanation doesn't suit you.

    the flow might not be there on a dyno, but that's only because theres no real air volume. the scoops are an integral part of the design, the box and snorkel and tube are all packed with air when the car is in motion, when this is ture, the turbos have enough air to scavenge, even at high rpm, and once you're at road speeds past 40? with scoops, the air volume coming in that 3x4" is more than you'd think.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
    now i did not design this product, so it may be too quick of a reply for me to make. abid is much more knowledgable on this product than i am so forgive me if i maker a fool of myself Click here to enlarge please call abid if this laymens explanation doesn't suit you.

    the flow might not be there on a dyno, but that's only because theres no real air volume. the scoops are an integral part of the design, the box and snorkel and tube are all packed with air when the car is in motion, when this is ture, the turbos have enough air to scavenge, even at high rpm, and once you're at road speeds past 40? with scoops, the air volume coming in that 3x4" is more than you'd think.
    You raise a good point about the air flow on the dyno, it will not be real world unless someone has an F1 wind tunnel we don't know about.

    However, a wider inlet is capable of more volume.

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    i never brought these pics over from e90, i made this thread while this board was in transition to the new style, which is awesome by the way... here are the asr scoops vs my old rpi scoops.

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    Big difference in scoop design, thanks for posting those pics.

    I ran the RPI scoops and felt it was the best mod for the money.

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    I don't know, I've had scoops w/ a tune, and I didn't really feel anything. I'm sure a butt-dyno w/ some massive fans will prove me otherwise.

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    Intakes look solid though! I wanted to design that earlier, but no way of machining it, and no $ lol

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    nice, phantom, wanted to hear your opinion. btw, you know who the stig is right lol? anyway, no need for massive fans unless its a real dyno, if a butt dyno is what you want all you need is a moving car, and thats where this intake shines.
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    Those new scoops are solid improvement!! i really like them.
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    Now that we're on the subject of ASR, I was by there yesterday...

    They have a GTR up on the lift with the motor sitting on a bench !! New massive turbos/manifolds/piping sitting there waiting to be installed. SICK.

    They were installing software on a brand spanking new Porsche Panamera Turbo. I was like Click here to enlarge.
    Abid was like Click here to enlarge, and the owner of the porsche was like Click here to enlarge. After they test drove it, they came back like Click here to enlargeand I was like Click here to enlarge.

    Thats my story.

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    hahahahaha awesome story with intergrated smilies lol. i know ASR have been working hard on that GTR, hopefully when they're finished with that project, we can get together to do some intake data and testing Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It's a neat looking intake, but the restriction point is the factory snorkel. Certainly not going to be ideal for power vs. the tried and true $139 dual cone intake. Glad they removed the gold wrap, though.
    I repsectfully beg to differ. We have been through this several times before with many other members assuming that the restriction is the factory snorkel or the air inlet tube diameters. The fact of the matter is that we have proven otherwise showing how this intake can support up to 540whp with our TT upgrade package. The one plus we have over others is the fact that we have more of an ability to test for the functionality of this intake since it was tested on turbos that flow more volume than stock. That being said, while tuning on the dyno we did indeed test the limits of the factory snorkel tube as well as the factory air intake tubes. Two things we did, the first being the factory snorkel limitation. Seeing as how our intake is a closed design, it's level of efficiency relies heavily on the factory intake snorkel as well as our scoops. So we decided to dyno the car back to back with and without the lexan top. This would prove if there were any performance limitations due to a cavitation effect. Of course the cavitation level would be much worse on the dyno with limited airflow volume to the intake. The results were what we expected, no difference in power with the top on or off. The next test was the limitation of the factory air inlet pipes. While on the dyno we removed the inlet tubes to both the front and rear turbos to see of there was in fact a restriction in airflow volume. The results were no difference in power at all as well. However, we did infact test the factory airbox with our tt upgraded car and noticed quite a bit of fluctuation in power and torque through out the whole powerband proving it's limitations.

    The dual cone intake is a cost affective method to the limitations of the factory airbox. However, our premise behind developing a product is not soley based on perfomance alone. At the end of the day we prefer to design products that accentuates the driving experience of a BMW both in function and form.

    By the way, the gold wrap was for a one of our vendors road race cars. It's the best material available for heat resistance which is why it was chosen to be used on that application. Not the prettiest thing in the world to look at though!
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    whooo hooo Abids first post here Click here to enlarge may it be one of many! im curious to see terry's response.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Abid@ASR Click here to enlarge
    I repsectfully beg to differ. We have been through this several times before with many other members assuming that the restriction is the factory snorkel or the air inlet tube diameters. The fact of the matter is that we have proven otherwise showing how this intake can support up to 540whp with our TT upgrade package. The one plus we have over others is the fact that we have more of an ability to test for the functionality of this intake since it was tested on turbos that flow more volume than stock. That being said, while tuning on the dyno we did indeed test the limits of the factory snorkel tube as well as the factory air intake tubes. Two things we did, the first being the factory snorkel limitation. Seeing as how our intake is a closed design, it's level of efficiency relies heavily on the factory intake snorkel as well as our scoops. So we decided to dyno the car back to back with and without the lexan top. This would prove if there were any performance limitations due to a cavitation effect. Of course the cavitation level would be much worse on the dyno with limited airflow volume to the intake. The results were what we expected, no difference in power with the top on or off. The next test was the limitation of the factory air inlet pipes. While on the dyno we removed the inlet tubes to both the front and rear turbos to see of there was in fact a restriction in airflow volume. The results were no difference in power at all as well. However, we did infact test the factory airbox with our tt upgraded car and noticed quite a bit of fluctuation in power and torque through out the whole powerband proving it's limitations.

    The dual cone intake is a cost affective method to the limitations of the factory airbox. However, our premise behind developing a product is not soley based on perfomance alone. At the end of the day we prefer to design products that accentuates the driving experience of a BMW both in function and form.

    By the way, the gold wrap was for a one of our vendors road race cars. It's the best material available for heat resistance which is why it was chosen to be used on that application. Not the prettiest thing in the world to look at though!
    If this is all accurate, then well done.

    However, with your testing procedures, do you have the results or dyno runs to post at the stages of development as support? Not saying I don't take your word for it, but would like to see the results of the various stages of testing which would be helpful.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If this is all accurate, then well done.

    However, with your testing procedures, do you have the results or dyno runs to post at the stages of development as support? Not saying I don't take your word for it, but would like to see the results of the various stages of testing which would be helpful.
    We have the dyno sheets for the airbox testing from our TT upgraded vehicle and have posted them on E90post through Shiv. As a matter of fact, Got PSI was at the dyno watching us do the testing while we were tuning. I'm sure he would have no problem chiming in on the subject from a third party perspective. We would be more than happy to post results backing up our data. It just wouldn't make much sense nor would it be very wise for us to design and develop a product for production with false data. It would only be a matter of time before customers start posting real world results. It would also be very hard for any company to refute if everyone is posting something completely different than what a product is supposed to be capable of performing.

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