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    Welcome to BB and thanks for the updates.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    HAHA, I'm a FI newb too! From the charts and dynos (RB and FFTEC) I've seen though, the TQ curve starts alot sooner on the twins. The HP does fall off toward redline on the twins unlike the single that pulls to redline but there is much debate on the usefulness of peak HP at 7000 RPM. Personally for a DD car with occasional 1/4 passes I'd rather the low end torque and be willing to sacrifice the HP at +6500 RPM being as I shift at 6200 RPM when drag racing anyways to hit that sweet spot in the torque range in the next gear. Just my opinion and I'm sure everyone has thier own preference for thier setup. I'll probably be buying hybrid turbos of some sort just to keep the $$$ down because in a custom TT setup you're buying twice as much hardware Click here to enlarge which drives the price up.
    you have to consider the context as well, due to fueling at the time, RB owners were forced to taper boost. We are still waiting to see how a 20psi-redline run on RB's would pan out.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    you have to consider the context as well, due to fueling at the time, RB owners were forced to taper boost. We are still waiting to see how a 20psi-redline run on RB's would pan out.
    Exhaust housings are too restrictive, your just playing with fire at that point.

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    LM, you don't want to run 20psi to redline on them..18-18.5 absolute max, trust me...to 6k though more can be pushed but without upgraded intake pipes I wouldn't recommend going past 20psi to anyone

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    LM, you don't want to run 20psi to redline on them..18-18.5 absolute max, trust me...to 6k though more can be pushed but without upgraded intake pipes I wouldn't recommend going past 20psi to anyone
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bigdnno98 Click here to enlarge
    I think alot of people are looking for actual upgraded twin manis and twin turbos. Wanting to keep the low end torque and faster spool characteristics of the TT setup while getting rid of that restrictive exhaust mani. I for one would take a twin GT2876rs setup over a single 6262 anyday.
    You sir are onto something.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    Like the stuff Alpina_B3_Lux posted about?? http://bimmerboost.com/showthread.ph...t-tubes-photos
    Yes. I'm working with my buddy's shop on making the upgraded inlets that should work for both stock and hybrid turbos. Once I get the car back I'll be gathering up data on the stock pipes at low/medium/high boost and see how restrictive they are with DCIs in place. Then we'll be installing the upgraded pipes that we're planning on making on his CNC pipe bender and gather the same data again. Given what George Smooth reported in terms of gains at elevation they'll provide some good sizeable gains at 19psi. He saw up to 20whp at 19psi at high elevation with his own one-off pipes which should be somewhat higher at sea level. In the end from his numbers we at least know the stock inlet pipes are definitely a restriction at those boost levels.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Yes. I'm working with my buddy's shop on making the upgraded inlets that should work for both stock and hybrid turbos. Once I get the car back I'll be gathering up data on the stock pipes at low/medium/high boost and see how restrictive they are with DCIs in place. Then we'll be installing the upgraded pipes that we're planning on making on his CNC pipe bender and gather the same data again. Given what George Smooth reported in terms of gains at elevation they'll provide some good sizeable gains at 19psi. He saw up to 20whp at 19psi at high elevation with his own one-off pipes which should be somewhat higher at sea level. In the end from his numbers we at least know the stock inlet pipes are definitely a restriction at those boost levels.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
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    I'll try test the intake pipes for you with my stock turbos! I'm thinking we'll find some sort of gain with these snails too :p
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    I'll check with the shop how they're making out. They were busy last two weeks with a huge order that had to be done and shipped out last Friday.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    LM, you don't want to run 20psi to redline on them..18-18.5 absolute max, trust me...to 6k though more can be pushed but without upgraded intake pipes I wouldn't recommend going past 20psi to anyone
    even so, ill take 18 over the 16 i had, but preferably with max boost in the midrange(id like to see 22+psi), since we were also capped at boost under 21psi. unless you have insight on that as well?

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    I do but nothing I'd like to publicly like to share at this point as testing wasn't finalized...car needs to be back on the road again, then intake pipes and then venture into higher boost again in midrange

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    Subscribed! Welcome Vargas. I'm anxious to here more about this Stage 3 stuff. Hopefully, everything works out well and we all will see the first upgraded twin turbo setup. (upgraded twin manis w/larger twin turbos that is) Click here to enlarge

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    VERY interesting... subscribed.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    even so, ill take 18 over the 16 i had, but preferably with max boost in the midrange(id like to see 22+psi), since we were also capped at boost under 21psi. unless you have insight on that as well?
    Why? So we can wear that tranny out even faster than we already am? I'm more concerned over top end.

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    Sub'd for details on Vargas turbos ....



    ..... And intake pipes. :-p

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Why? So we can wear that tranny out even faster than we already am? I'm more concerned over top end.
    Not a problem for MT.

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    Definitely nice to have some competition around the upgrades of turbo/turbos. Even though this is "BMW" but aftermarket prices are way through the roof compared to other cars. Competition will bring this down.

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    Understand and the same in return. What I was saying though is that in your attempt to replicate my offering you will find you are omitting many steps that will ultimately raise (and re-raise) what you predict the process will cost.I will not go into specifics, but you will find you simply can not sell the product you believe you will for what you have indicated. At least not without a loss or many corners cut at the expense of quality or installability. A lot of folks seem to think this is just a typical hybrid turbo job that is easy like many other platforms, until they actually put the pen to the paper; which is why nearly all turbo shops will not take on this venture. It simply costs too much money and time to produce the product.
    But apparently you will find this out and be shipping in less than 2 weeks time. Best of luck, looking forward to progress pics in the next day or two.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by VargasTurboTech Click here to enlarge
    Hey Rob, def not here to get into any sort of pissing match with you or anyone and will always keep my posts friendly and professional. We will let the numbers speak for themselves. Not here to take business away from anyone. Just offering products I feel people would like at a lower price point.

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    Sounds good! Goodluck Vargas team!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Rob@RBTurbo Click here to enlarge
    Understand and the same in return. What I was saying though is that in your attempt to replicate my offering you will find you are omitting many steps that will ultimately raise (and re-raise) what you predict the process will cost.I will not go into specifics, but you will find you simply can not sell the product you believe you will for what you have indicated. At least not without a loss or many corners cut at the expense of quality or installability. A lot of folks seem to think this is just a typical hybrid turbo job that is easy like many other platforms, until they actually put the pen to the paper; which is why nearly all turbo shops will not take on this venture. It simply costs too much money and time to produce the product.
    But apparently you will find this out and be shipping in less than 2 weeks time. Best of luck, looking forward to progress pics in the next day or two.
    Thanks Rob, I appreciate the well wishings. To answer what you are saying. I am not sure how long you have been in the turbo business, but we have been in it for almost 40 years. In this amount of time you build vendors, machinists, etc which make these upgrades not only possible for the price I am selling them but also very feasible. Secondly when you are the first to do something AKA yourself, the learning curve is usually much steeper and I think you are forgetting another factor. I did not decide to build these upgrades to make money. I decided I wanted to get back to our roots in the performance side of things because its more fun and rewarding then building huge turbos for power plants, ships, etc. With that being said. Stage 1's are already on a car testing. Stage 2 should be done at the machinists in the next 2 weeks, I stated 2-3 weeks time we all know delays can always pop up but I am shooting for around then. We shall see with some testing how things go. I am not doubting what you say on the difficulty of doing these modifications actually I can attest to them, but this isn't our first rodeo. I think it boils down to we are approaching this from different ends of the spectrum as far as profitability.
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    @VargasTurboTech you had me @$1999 can't wait for your release!Click here to enlarge

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    Stage 2 is very tempting. Can we get a price range for Stage 3?
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    After looking at what Vargas does on their website, these n54 turbos should be a walk in the park for them....
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