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    Wow, very nice. No meth right? Those are awesome numbers with no meth. Were trims maxed at 450HP? How much boost peak and redline?
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    Damn.. looks like ill need to up my boost again..

    Awesome results!
    So much has happened since i parted ways.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sikh335 Click here to enlarge
    What's with the 14:1 AFR from 4400rpm to 5000rpm seems lean don't you think especially at this
    power level. Any fixes for this condition?
    The fix is for you to go play hide and go $#@! yourself, Learn how to change your own oil and you can come back and talk.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    The fix is for you to go play hide and go $#@! yourself, Learn how to change your own oil and you can come back and talk.
    Sig worthy right thur!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sikh335 Click here to enlarge
    What's with the 14:1 AFR from 4400rpm to 5000rpm seems lean don't you think especially at this
    power level. Any fixes for this condition?
    It's lean and mean! Did you read the first post where I discussed the fuel pressure drop and related fueling issues?
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    @Terry@BMS have you considered raising the scalar to accomodate the 50/50 mix? I believe your current scalar is set at 1.25.

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    The fuel trims are in check until the fuel pressure takes a dive. The scalar unfortunately isn't going to do much for that. I think it needs a new in tank pump or at least an inline booster pump.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    The fuel trims are in check until the fuel pressure takes a dive. The scalar unfortunately isn't going to do much for that. I think it needs a new in tank pump or at least an inline booster pump.
    At what boost level did you manage to keep the car happy without leaning out like that? I would guess somewhere in the 18's? Could be worth trying to lower the boost and raising the timing.

    Although the numbers are great, real-world no one would want to run like that for any extended period of time.

    At 18 tapering to 14 with a ton of timing, car's perfectly happy, at least on my 33% E85 blend.

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    At a "traditional" 12.5:1 AFR with less boost it was putting out around 465rw with a little more advance. OK. But not where I wanted it to be. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    The fix is for you to go play hide and go **** yourself, Learn how to change your own oil and you can come back and talk.
    Hahaha this forum is awesome. But what's up with the reputation stuff? It forced me to change the chars to *s

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    Nice! Terry, any plans to max out oem turbos?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It's lean and mean! Did you read the first post where I discussed the fuel pressure drop and related fueling issues?

    He apparently didn't comprehend that part of the reading since he's talking crap on shivpost.com about your A/F ratio's on another thread Vishnu/FFTEC E85 tread, typical fanboy
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    Hmm, I don't see much point in such a glory dyno run. People would be all over Lord Voldemort here if he posted similar stuff.

    Let's see some real-world results which are useful for the end-user on the road!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, I don't see much point in such a glory dyno run. People would be all over Lord Voldemort here if he posted similar stuff.

    Let's see some real-world results which are useful for the end-user on the road!
    I believe the point is that this is less of a glory run, and more of a "we might have found a limit run." IMO, a glory run would be AEM 3 bar or N20 map sensor, 25psi, and 100% E85 putting down like 550whp... and 10's all day.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CaptainInsano Click here to enlarge
    Hahaha this forum is awesome. But what's up with the reputation stuff? It forced me to change the chars to *s
    It allows the forum members to silence trolls and weed out the worthless windbags.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    I believe the point is that this is less of a glory run, and more of a "we might have found a limit run." IMO, a glory run would be AEM 3 bar or N20 map sensor, 25psi, and 100% E85 putting down like 550whp... and 10's all day.
    Ok, but the thread title is a bit misleading. Call it "E85 RB Dyno Testing" or whatever, but the word "results" implies "final" and "official" for me Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lulz_m3 Click here to enlarge
    I believe the point is that this is less of a glory run, and more of a "we might have found a limit run." IMO, a glory run would be AEM 3 bar or N20 map sensor, 25psi, and 100% E85 putting down like 550whp... and 10's all day.
    Then boom goes the center section on the rear turbo. I'm not that brave. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    Then boom goes the center section on the rear turbo. I'm not that brave. Click here to enlarge
    No guts, no glory.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    I happen have a G5 board on but with the BMS flash loaded none of the G5 features are really being used. No CPS offset in here, JB4 fueling is disabled, SLD is handled via the flash, barely much PWM being added, etc. So these results are achievable with a normal G4 board as well.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
    Or just Cobb on its own Click here to enlarge
    In this configuration the JB4 is running boost, in dash features, meth, and safety systems. The boost curve isn't too crazy so flash only may be able to handle it but it would be a headache to dial in, vs. 10 seconds to enter numbers in the JB4 interface. And then it would be load based rather than absolute. Besides I wouldn't be able to survive without boost and timing in dash. But to each their own. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
    Hmm, I don't see much point in such a glory dyno run. People would be all over Lord Voldemort here if he posted similar stuff.

    Let's see some real-world results which are useful for the end-user on the road!
    Once we improve the fueling we'll get going on some 60-130 testing with it. But the dyno testing was important to establish exactly what is going on with the fuel system and what the general power output is currently.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Once we improve the fueling we'll get going on some 60-130 testing with it. But the dyno testing was important to establish exactly what is going on with the fuel system and what the general power output is currently.
    My point is that a map which leans out that much is not real-world compatible?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
    My point is that a map which leans out that much is not real-world compatible?
    I've done plenty of 50-120 blasts and it seem stable enough. You can run E85 fairly lean. But I'm not sure I'd want to run to 160mph like this. Hopefully with a fuel system upgrade we can get back to around 12.5:1.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno@ProTUNING Freaks Click here to enlarge
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    Prob true, but.... The easiest and cheapest way to run meth is with the JB4 for those that want to run meth + e85 and I LOVE my in dash boost and meth gage. OP did put down similar numbers to what I put down on 50% e85 plus 80/20 meth and a 70 add on a G5 board though. I'm pretty much maxed out, power wise on my stock turbos without a custom tune. I'll be getting another Cobb AP in preparation for my RBs but I'm tempted to see what more I can squeze out of the stockers with the Cobb + JB4 G5 while waiting for my RBs to ship. With these really high numbers without meth, I'm interested to see what the gain is with meth + e85 + custom flash + G5 on the stockers.
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