Thread: Review of KW E9X M3 DDC (EDC) Coilovers by Turner Motorsport + the launch of the GermanBoost Suspension and Brakes Forum
08-21-2012, 12:02 AM #1
Review of KW E9X M3 DDC (EDC) Coilovers by Turner Motorsport + the launch of the GermanBoost Suspension and Brakes Forum
Our members and readers have been clamoring for a forum dedicated to suspension and brake components. We are officially launching our network wide Suspension and Brakes forum with the review of the KW DCC Coilovers for the E92 M3 by Turner Motorsport. Dedicating a section to suspensions and brakes will make for more well rounded discussions as well as introduce more members to the community who do not just focus on power upgrades but all around benefits that help on the track/street. One could say we are maturing in our coverage.
The KW DDC system is basically their own EDC (electronic damper control) system. The system as BMW uses it can manually or automatically adjust dampening to suit the manner in which one is driving or the road conditions. It is almost a continually variable suspension system whose goal is to provide comfort and performance adjusting body and wheel and tire load depending on the surface and driving manner.
This is all monitored by a small computer that is fed data with sensors and reacts based on this data practically instantly. Magnetic valves then are then variable adjusted based on what the microprocessor tells them to do. Under hard braking the valves will adjust to stiffen suspension for example to prevent the nose from diving and this would work in a similar manner during acceleration to vary load and balance the car for traction. This can also contribute to safety.
KW allows their adjustment to take place from an Iphone app. Very, very trick setup. This happens from a wireless network setup as wireless lan module is installed with the coilovers. All four shocks feed data to this module which works similar to the BMW EDC system. KW also gives three settings for their suspension (comfort, sport, and sport plus) with a switch on the dash. The wireless Iphone app which is optional (additional $420) allows 100 different ways to adjust however.
Turner Motorsport's full review with far more details is below. Enjoy:
DDC Leaves EDC Behind
The V3 coilover kit is one of the most feature-packed coil over suspensions on the market. We're impressed with the options and controls they give you. The DDC system takes it one giant leap forward. It's a lot like any standard EDC system but with greater control and options. Each shock is adjustable for rebound and compression. You have 100 settings for the compression (bump) and rebound to dial in ride comfort and handling. Adjustments are done with a dash-mounted button for one of 3 pre-set damping rates or from 0-100 in single increments using the app. This gives you full control over the ride and handling characteristics - make it soft and comfy for driving on bumpy city streets; make it stiffer for backroad slicing; turn it way up for track days. It's easy to find a happy medium for whatever driving you're doing. In Comfort mode, the damper settings are dynamically adjusted using speed signals from the vehicle - just like the factory EDC system. KW's coil overs allow ride height adjustment in the front (10-40mm lowering) and rear (5-35mm lowering) which you can use to set your stance, corner balance, and lower your center of gravity.
Suspension Tuning By App
The DDC kit comes with its own dash-mounted selector button (sadly, it's not yet possible to integrate with the BMW's EDC button). Or with the optional KW W-LAN module you can control and configure the V3 coilovers via the free app on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch. The app allows you to set the shock damping on the front and rear axles separately, maintain a pre-set front-rear differential setting, save five personal damper setups, and share your setups with friends. With the app each axle can be adjusted between 0% (maximum comfort setting) and 100% (maximum sport+ setting). The communication between app and KW components is via a secure WiFi connection. You can also choose the same 3 pre-programmed settings as the dash switch. And this can all be done on the fly (please practice safe and responsible driving). Overall the app is very user friendly and simple allowing you to make the changes you want very quickly. Will Turner stated, "We are always looking for new technologies to implement into our suspension packages. Having an adjustable suspension like the KW that you can adjust with your iPhone or iPad is not only cool but useable and functional as well."
Installing the DDC kit was not difficult for our techs. KW supplies just about everything you could need, including instructions, and every connector is a direct plug-in even on the factory BMW harnesses. No cutting and splicing or special wiring was required and it's completely reversible with no permanent changes to the factory hardware. Better yet, no post-install programming was required with BMW so no trip to the dealer and we didn't have to fire up our GT-One. The V3 coilover system fit perfectly as always and was very easy to adjust to get the ride height we were looking for. Our BMW master tech Derek N. stated, “The installation is straight forward as if installing a regular coil over kit. Some extra steps are required such as routing the control wires from each individual shock to the rear being careful not to chafe the wires. There are plenty of retainers and tie wraps included in the kit to facilitate a clean install. Slightly more disassembly is required to access the wiring to the stock EDC system to properly integrate the KW conversion. No coding or programming is required.”
We would recommend professional installation for this kit since it is very time consuming to install both the coilovers themselves and all the wiring that goes along with them for the DDC system. We would estimate that the entire install took our service technicians 10-12 hours. This includes installation, testing the DDC ECU, and getting the ride height where we wanted it.
The first drive in the Frozen Grey M3 with this suspension met every expectation we had. The ride was smooth and the suspension gave the car a little more of the “racecar” feel that it was lacking with stock ZCP suspension on it. On the comfort setting the car felt a lot like stock with the EDC on the softest setting. The sport setting was our favorite for the street. It gave the ride a taut feel but still retained much of the comfort settings ride characteristics. Then of course there is the Sport+ setting that gives the car an entirely new feel. It instantly gave the car a racetrack ready feel making it more responsive to throttle and steering inputs. Beyond the 3 settings you can go advanced with the iPhone/iPad application which is the real draw to this kit, putting it at the cutting edge of suspension technology, making it our first choice for an all-around suspension for any M3.
The 3 standard settings are great for any type of driving on the street from inner city to curvy country roads. To us the 5 advanced settings are reserved for track use, this allows you to experiment with front and rear damping independently to get the correct balance for specific tracks. For example if we were at the NHMS road course we would want the rear to be a bit softer than the front for maximum power down exiting the tight corners. For a track like Lime Rock or Watkins Glen you would want the car to be a bit more neutral for higher speed corners. The 5 personal settings are perfect for setups at five of your favorite tracks!
We love this kit and all its features. The KW coilovers are very high quality, fit great, and ride awesome. In addition, the iPhone app works seamlessly with the V3 coilover kit. It is incredibly fast and easy to change suspension settings with the push of a button (or the tap of a touch screen). The V3 coilover kit really is the best of both worlds, a coilover that is great for the street as well as those weekend track days. It combines world class suspension technology with cutting edge electronic features. The separate and independently adjustable rebound and compression damping allows for an individual suspension setup for different uses and preferences (street & track). This unique patented system with its two-stage valves allows a rebound damping adjustment (comfort) and a compression adjustment (driving dynamics) in the low-speed range while the high-speed range which controls the driving safety, is fixed. If you find yourself at the track or autocross events on a regular basis this is the kit for your BMW. If you are simply looking for a street-able coilover kit that you can use on the track a couple times a year this probably is not the kit for you and the same goes for people looking for a sole track or race suspension, KW makes a Clubsport Kit which uses linear race springs and allows for a bit more adjustment which is perfect for the track car or club racecar. No matter what budget or need you are looking to satisfy KW has the solution for your BMW.
08-21-2012, 12:28 AM #2Member
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Nice review by the guys at Turner Motorsports.
Also, I am very excited to see what further threads pop up in this subforum! Hopefully I can write up some reviews in the near future!
08-21-2012, 12:31 AM #3
Definitely want to get this subforum cracking.
I really, really like this KW system.
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08-21-2012, 12:43 AM #5
That system looks...just plain awesome...I wasn't going to do something like this for my C63 because I haven't seen any lowered ones that really do it for me, but if I can change it on the fly with my iPad, it's a very possible and probable project...now if they only came out with one for the C63 lol
08-21-2012, 01:01 AM #6
I'm not sure what cars are supported by this system. I think the 3 Series and 1 Series.
08-21-2012, 05:27 AM #7
Wow, nice system. KW has always made quality products and love that you can change the setup on the fly. Decisions, decisions, decisions...2010 335i Coupe Le Mans Blue
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ZOMG! This is beyond awesomeness!E92 335i SB / Black Leather / 6AT / Navi Prof / Sunroof / Active Steering
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08-21-2012, 08:16 AM #10
I like it.
Is there an app for Android as well?
Any indication of costs for this complete setup?There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works
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