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    E85 + RB turbos = WIN

    All I gotta say is PTF FTW and I am making great power without methanol. VD shows I can make around 410 whp on 93 octane pump gas reliably, but around 450 whp on less boost with E85 on a safe map.

    AFRs check, timing corrections check, yadda yadda. If I can squeeze 460-475whp on this 5 gallon E85 map without methanol, I may never run the crap again.

    Win WIN WIN WIN WIN!!!!!!!!!!

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    E85 pull is running LESS boost than the pump gas pull. Amazing stuff.


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    Great news. I'm still gonna run meth but great to know RBs are doing well without it.
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    Yeah man, that's on 15.5 psi in the powerband and the car shows it's very happy. I need to crank it up another 2-2.5 psi Click here to enlarge

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    This is great!

    now when you say you won;t run meth, will you still spray some water? you know for IAT suppression. Or you're not going to spray anything at all?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by marv85 Click here to enlarge
    This is great!

    now when you say you won;t run meth, will you still spray some water? you know for IAT suppression. Or you're not going to spray anything at all?
    Too many factors when you add E85, meth and pump gas into a map. I guess I'll tune for it just to have the option open, but I am very happy not having to deal with silly flow sensors, methanol safeties, etc. I am more than happy daily driving on pump gas and filling up E85 when I need to run someone. But if methanol gets me max power with E85, I'll keep the map in my back pocket. Click here to enlarge

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    lets do this brother!Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    I am more than happy daily driving on pump gas and filling up E85 when I need to run someone.
    So this is 100% E85, not a blend? If so, Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    lets do this brother!Click here to enlarge
    PTF also fixed my flatline issues... Soon very soon. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
    PTF also fixed my flatline issues... Soon very soon. Click here to enlarge
    Do tell = flatline fix!

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    So these results were on a 40/60, E85 / 93 pump mix ?

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    great stuff!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by whoosh Click here to enlarge
    So this is 100% E85, not a blend? If so, Click here to enlarge
    OP said it was 5 gals of E85 to a full tank of 93 -- That's basically a ~30% blend & capitalizing on the gains made available by the COBB E85 Fueling Tables Click here to enlarge
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    Around 30-35%. Might want to up it to 50/50 next. The 2:1 mix has its limits.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DCAFS Click here to enlarge
    Do tell = flatline fix!
    It needs to be tuned out. I'd say contact PTF.

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    E85 + RB turbos = a lot of fun. Hope to have some dynos soon for you guys. Click here to enlarge
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    thank god people are finding ways around the $#@!hole that is meth... i have been saying this for ages

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    Im running E50 and 60/40 meth, made 430/499 on a ATR map tuned by PRS in Orlando.

    Stock turbos.

    Why would you be against running meth? It keeps everything cooler, and cleaner.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Q4P Click here to enlarge
    thank god people are finding ways around the $#@!hole that is meth... i have been saying this for ages
    Why is meth a $#@!hole?

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    How do you keep your VD readings accurate? I seem to get too much variance even if I run on the same road at the same time, twice.
    I wouldn't really blame heatsoak since just yesterday my second run was about 30whp higher even though on the vbox the times were almost dead on the same.
    I really want to try dialing in Virtual Dyno properly so I can tinker around with my setup and at least be able to use the delta's to assess progress.

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    Congrats, Themyst! Time for some more vbox testing Click here to enlarge



    I've never run meth either. Much easier to go put a couple gallons of e85 into the tank

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    Great results themyst.
    I'm a huge fan of meth and think it works wonders on our N54's. I also run E85/98 RON pump and the car takes to it extremely well.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Why is meth a $#@!hole?
    It's $#@! when you use it as a band-aid for fueling. When I upgrade to RB's I'll probably ditch my kit, unless I spray into the intercooler.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blaizon Click here to enlarge
    It's $#@! when you use it as a band-aid for fueling. When I upgrade to RB's I'll probably ditch my kit, unless I spray into the intercooler.
    Well as a band-aid for fuel limits I would agree.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Blaizon Click here to enlarge
    It's $#@! when you use it as a band-aid for fueling. When I upgrade to RB's I'll probably ditch my kit, unless I spray into the intercooler.
    i dont get it man, are you still having meth issues?

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