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    Procede custom tuning?

    I figure this *may* be the wrong forum to post this Click here to enlarge but I'll give it a try Click here to enlarge

    The Procede allows to custom tune the maps, a bit like Cobb ATR. However for the average user like me, things are too complex and I'm afraid to mess stuff up.

    So why doesn't anyone offer to custom tune the Procede? Is it more complicated than with Cobb?
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    Well, this is very simple. Switch to Cobb, done deal.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well, this is very simple. Switch to Cobb, done deal.
    As soon as they have reliable and powerful maps for Rob Beck turbos on 6AT cars Click here to enlarge

    In the meantime I want to optimize my current setup.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Autobahn335i Click here to enlarge
    As soon as they have reliable and powerful maps for Rob Beck turbos on 6AT cars
    Isn't this just a matter of time?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Isn't this just a matter of time?
    Sure hope so! RBs should go in the car in two months. More powa is always welcome Click here to enlarge
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    There are no issues with tuning an RB car, automatic or manual and/or AWD, with Cobb. We've done a number of them so far with some great results. pm-ed you.
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    It wouldn't be procede custom tuning, it would be procede custom offsetting Click here to enlarge Really though, it's way less complex than Cobb. Just log, see how you like it and change the offsets as required. I can help you if you wish. Typically, I run a little more fuel pressure, richer AFRs, a point less boost and a little more conservative timing. Thats all you can change really, as well as meth injection DC if you have that.

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    The procede is actually really easy to tune. It is a haltech ecu so it uses the halwin software. My first 3 standalones that I ever had on my personal cars were haltechs. I know the software like the back of my hand. You are a bit far but I can put together an etune if you would like.

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    Just noticed OP has RBs on order. In which, I'd grab a cobb and get PTF to do something for you in lieu of the procede. The procede is okay for stockers IMO, but as soon as I jump to RBs, dzenno will have his phone ringing.

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    Procede software is pretty easy to dial in. I actually found it relatively user friendly other than the fact the rows and cells arent click friendly. Problem is the Procede doesn't offer you full control of what the DME is capable of.

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    My way of analogy if you are familiar with Honda tuning

    Cobb= Hondata
    Procede= E-Manage

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tzu Click here to enlarge
    Just noticed OP has RBs on order. In which, I'd grab a cobb and get PTF to do something for you in lieu of the procede. The procede is okay for stockers IMO, but as soon as I jump to RBs, dzenno will have his phone ringing.
    What do you mean in technical terms? You'd need to have more control than available in Procede for tuning for bigger twins? What don you miss in Procede especially in that case?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mclyin Click here to enlarge
    My way of analogy if you are familiar with Honda tuning

    Cobb= Hondata
    Procede= E-Manage
    Lol

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    It comes down to level of control. I'm not going to get into a big arguement here but the big parameters are fueling and ignition. With stockers, I'm going by the time tested observation that piggies are just fine. But going to larger flow volumes I'd like to have a finer granularity of alteration and targeting. Combine that with the fact that putting computers in series is just poor form. Sure it works, thats seen everyday, but it's not an ideal way to set up hardware. Add in lag and adaptation variance between "fabricated" stock values with high power objectives and I'm just not comfortable with it. ATP has access to 100+ tables in the DME to let ONE computer do the work. Ever played the game "broken telephone"? Thats how I perceive it. In the end I always prefer MORE control than deceit. Not hating at all, I still use a procede but will jump to cobb as soon as I have some spare cash and they support a methanol failsafe within their logic. Feels soon though Click here to enlarge

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    Dude if you are asking how to custom tune procede you should stay away from atr. With procede you basically up the boost all the rest is fine ( procede runs by default 1 degree less timings than stock on IC 0)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by jhershorin Click here to enlarge
    It is a haltech ecu so it uses the halwin software.
    You mean it isn't some sophisticated proprietary piece of hardware they are considering using on the next generation space shuttle?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You mean it isn't some sophisticated proprietary piece of hardware they are considering using on the next generation space shuttle?
    I'm curious to know how sophisticated the product you developed is.
    Change is constant

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    Fwiw halwin won't interface with the procede. The user tuning software exposes much of the desired mapping options.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    Fwiw halwin won't interface with the procede. The user tuning software exposes much of the desired mapping options.

    you sure about that?

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    Wow on this thread especially on this forum! Lol. I am also a procede tuned car, but Cobb Has definitely gained some interest over here! I am in exterior modding phase and as soon as I get over it, Back to performance!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by The Ghost Click here to enlarge
    I'm curious to know how sophisticated the product you developed is.
    If I did sell a piece of hardware I likely would respect my customers enough to not blatantly BS them like a used car salesman. I also would understand what it is and what it is not. It's a piece of hardware somebody else developed bud, not even him.

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    I did try connecting haltechs range of soft ware to the procede back in v4 days with no success. Do you know otherwise?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by uniter Click here to enlarge
    I did try connecting haltechs range of soft ware to the procede back in v4 days with no success. Do you know otherwise?
    I forget who it was but they said they were able to do it. You would have to search the forum.

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    Terry@BMS said it was possible 'back in the day' in 2010 by removing a config byte. That has since been changed.

    I mean they use a custom firmware, probably different table locations, different interface etc.

    I stick by my comment that you can't get halwin to connect or map the procede. Their software and firmware is just too divergent.

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    Ok so it was possible which goes to show you it's all haltechs architecture. Shiv didn't invent anything just had people modify things for him which he then sells the community on and proclaims himself tuner extraordinare.

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