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    Has music/art gotten worse?

    Saw this and it got me thinking, has everything been dumbed down for commercialism and to cater to the masses? Are we dumber?

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    Overall YES. Just compare the recent music to the older music. Complete junk. I have lots of songs in my mind of 80's and 90's that will stay there forever. I can name just a few of the recent songs that will stay in people's memories for decades. That just shows it all.

    And it's not just the music and art. It's almost everything. The only thing that i thing we made progress is medical scene. We have better technology than our fathers, that's for sure but not the brains to use that technology like we used to have.

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    Lady gaga
    Justin Beiber
    Niki Minaj
    Drake
    etc...

    Modern music is made by people with borderline downs syndrome.

    How can you compare the above with real celebrity artists such as
    R.E.M
    Michael Jackson (before pedo)
    Beatles
    etc...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    Lady gaga
    Justin Beiber
    Niki Minaj
    Drake
    etc...

    Modern music is made by people with borderline downs syndrome.

    How can you compare the above with real celebrity artists such as
    R.E.M
    Michael Jackson (before pedo)
    Beatles
    etc...
    I'll give Drake some credit. The Motto is a little more creative than "Girls"
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    Mainstream music yes, totally... There are lot of good artist right now, its just that they dont get as much attention or media display because what really makes money is pop upbeat melodies, and money makes the world go round...

    On the other hand, it would be stupid to say art has gotten worse... Art is art. I do agree that nowadays everyone think they are an artist but nevermind, real art will always be that, art. It changes constantly with the times.

    That's for art... Now back to the mainstream msic...Yes is sh*t. But like I said, there's very good music now, its just not displayed at mtv:

    Diane Birch is quite good, and there are a lot of artist like her:



    Such as Lauren Pritchard:



    Even somehow mainstream bands such as one republic are good, as for the singing talent and the lyrics writting. The Fray is also part of the few known bands that are actually good.





    The list could go on and on and on... Point is, if you hope to liste good music on the radio or MTV, you're gonna have tro try hard. Stciky, I remember you made a thread about Skrillex being awesome? You just gotta take that sort of music (Pitbull, LAdy Gaga, Minaj) as what they are, mainstream pop music that 99.9% of people like, making it a juicy bussines. Besides, who of us havent danced at least to one pitbull song at the club? I have not a single song of him in my Ipod, but there are moment where you can cope with them!

    PD: Skrillex sucks.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Boosted1 Click here to enlarge
    Skrillex sucks.
    Blasphemy.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Boosted1 Click here to enlarge
    Mainstream music yes, totally... There are lot of good artist right now, its just that they dont get as much attention or media display because what really makes money is pop upbeat melodies, and money makes the world go round...

    On the other hand, it would be stupid to say art has gotten worse... Art is art. I do agree that nowadays everyone think they are an artist but nevermind, real art will always be that, art. It changes constantly with the times.

    That's for art... Now back to the mainstream msic...Yes is sh*t. But like I said, there's very good music now, its just not displayed at mtv:

    Diane Birch is quite good, and there are a lot of artist like her:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErkIBzItpQY

    Such as Lauren Pritchard:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxSBco1Z1eU

    Even somehow mainstream bands such as one republic are good, as for the singing talent and the lyrics writting. The Fray is also part of the few known bands that are actually good.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1_5AeJnbu4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intQi...eature=related

    The list could go on and on and on... Point is, if you hope to liste good music on the radio or MTV, you're gonna have tro try hard. Stciky, I remember you made a thread about Skrillex being awesome? You just gotta take that sort of music (Pitbull, LAdy Gaga, Minaj) as what they are, mainstream pop music that 99.9% of people like, making it a juicy bussines. Besides, who of us havent danced at least to one pitbull song at the club? I have not a single song of him in my Ipod, but there are moment where you can cope with them!

    PD: Skrillex sucks.
    I have to disagree with you on this one. Although I see your point that art is art because in its own context its just art to everyone. The problem is when people use cookie cutter lyrics and ask other people to write and produce songs for them, those singers and musicians are NOT artists, they are just VOCALISTS.

    Could you imagine if picasso asked his managers, producers and friends what type of picture should he paint, what colors to use and follow all their advice? He wouldnt be an artist, just a painter.
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    I wasnt talking about the music, I was referring to all other types of art, since the mainstream music scene shouldnt event be written in the same sentence with the word art.

    That aside, funny you mention picasso and that example, since Picasso and some of his closest friends (also painters) used to get together (and do opium btw...) to explore a discuss new art (they stopped when one of them died of overdose). Vincent Van Gogh himself lived with different painters at his last years, painters who he took infuence from. Its not exactly asking them how to do it, but many artist took advice for their works. Hell, this could go for lines and lines... Not to mention also the huge amount of paintings that were made under the catholic church or kings orders, paintings which were at times modified by the orders of them directly to the artist, and not making the paintings less artistic than they are...

    We could argue about this for days, thats what I love about art... Defining what's art and what's not, its been a dillema for this whole century, especially with the post 1940's works of contemporary art.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    Lady gaga
    Justin Beiber
    Niki Minaj
    Drake
    etc...

    Modern music is made by people with borderline downs syndrome.

    How can you compare the above with real celebrity artists such as
    R.E.M
    Michael Jackson (before pedo)
    Beatles
    etc...

    Correct
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    Three words
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    Musical ARTISTS.....
    Jack White too

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Boosted1 Click here to enlarge
    I wasnt talking about the music, I was referring to all other types of art, since the mainstream music scene shouldnt event be written in the same sentence with the word art.

    That aside, funny you mention picasso and that example, since Picasso and some of his closest friends (also painters) used to get together (and do opium btw...) to explore a discuss new art (they stopped when one of them died of overdose). Vincent Van Gogh himself lived with different painters at his last years, painters who he took infuence from. Its not exactly asking them how to do it, but many artist took advice for their works. Hell, this could go for lines and lines... Not to mention also the huge amount of paintings that were made under the catholic church or kings orders, paintings which were at times modified by the orders of them directly to the artist, and not making the paintings less artistic than they are...

    We could argue about this for days, thats what I love about art... Defining what's art and what's not, its been a dillema for this whole century, especially with the post 1940's works of contemporary art.
    There's a huge difference between beyonce and her 50 producers and DEDICATED managers and song writers then picasso getting together with his painter buddies, getting high and coming up with revolutionary $#@!. I mean you gotta agree with me on that.

    French and european artists were known to do drugs, especially absinthe at the time, while painting. That is fine, because that induces fine art IMO. But having someone else do the work for you is what I personally have a problem with, and crappy work at that. Look at those fine lyrics from beyonce, girls...
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    Things is, I dont think you understand the complexity it took to write "girls"... Is just no about all type of girls, its the kind who run the world... Pretty deep if you ask me..

    LOL JK. Yeah I totally agree with you, just wanted to point out that taking advice as an artist isnt bad at all. That aside, I think we all agree that beyonce is an artist as Sticky is an N54 fan.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Boosted1 Click here to enlarge
    Things is, I dont think you understand the complexity it took to write "girls"... Is just no about all type of girls, its the kind who run the world... Pretty deep if you ask me..

    LOL JK. Yeah I totally agree with you, just wanted to point out that taking advice as an artist isnt bad at all. That aside, I think we all agree that beyonce is an artist as Sticky is an N54 fan.
    Yep. She has a nice voice, but isn't exactly gifted in writing her own sh1t. It's so easy to be famous now, hell even paris hilton who has no skills is famous just because her managers know exactly what she needs to do to get attention. I need to hire a manager.
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    Gotta agree with the OP, at least as far as mainstream is concerned. Be it singers or actors, physical beauty is all that seems to matter nowadays for success.
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