Thread: Next generation BMW X1 will be front wheel drive and share its platform with the Mini Countryman
07-16-2012, 10:12 PM #26
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The Mini has a BMW WIN number (serial).
Porsche did venture into the "cheap" end .. remember the 924 and the 944, later the 968 (which is probably the boxter now).
Like BMW's FWD comments a long time a go Porsche has also made claims in the past like "there will never be a diesel Porsche".. well, times change. I don't have the numbers in front of me but I am pretty sure that the highest selling 911 Porsche today is the Carrera4 or the 4S. I would ALWAYS get the 2WD version, and rather spend the extra money on the "S" and not the "4" but this still shows us what the mainstreem buyer is thinking, and the mainstreem buyer pays the way for companies to be able to develope special things for us nutters.
We even have a 4wd Ferrari now.
As someone said .. BMW sales numbers are at a record high, so I still say that BMW knows best what a BMW is, or at least what sells. Think of it this way, as long as BMW is making decent money they will be more likely to come out with high end high performance special cars.
I agree that the fake sound in the M5 is a bit lame, but what can you do when the new one just does not sound as good as the one its replacing. E60M5>F10M5 sound wise.1995 BMW M3GT nr:111/350 TwinTurbo and some other mods.
07-17-2012, 09:26 AM #28
They most certainly are not taking a Golf or cheap VW and re-badging it a Porsche.
07-17-2012, 09:50 AM #29
However, I do agree with you that having "cheaper" BMWs in the US will probably dilute the brand to some shoppers.
Quantity is not quality.
Seriously though, more money = better chance some crazy engineers can get a hold of it and build an amazing super-car. : O
07-17-2012, 10:59 AM #30
07-17-2012, 03:43 PM #31
Kline 200cell exhaust
Cobb E85 custom stage3 tune by Mitch
Sachs stage 2.5 clutch
07-17-2012, 10:47 PM #32
I wouldn't trade my e92 M3 for any other M3. : O Never driven the E30 though; but would love to, and would love to own one also I imagine...
The auto industry has changed so much, it is very hard for me to compare cars across generations - for me. I'm more interested in where they are going. I understand the pause based on the current direction, but I think it is too soon in the next gen M cars to declare the cause lost just yet. Yes I know I am a broken record. ; )
07-19-2012, 12:37 AM #33
07-19-2012, 07:30 AM #34
The Mini has the BMW blueprint for the engine and the engine is made in FRANCE!!(Prince) if not mistaken as was the old mini the engine was the Chrysler Pentagon 1.6 engine which BTW was a GREAT engine!! which was specifically made for BMW!! back then. The new Mini is almsot completely a BMW and NOT a true Mini sad to say, I drove the old mini 02 mcs for 9 years(128K) and i can attest to it , the new one I drove was the Countryman for a test drive so imagine the X1 will be the same ride, for which I DID enjoy and would not mind ordering a DIESEL version