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    I'd like to see more camera angles as that view for the faster car doesn't help too much with putting the slower car in context.

    Good runs though just goes to show how vital it is for the M3 to be in the right gear.

    Find it funny you questioning the other results those when yours mimic them. Even your spin as well as being in the wrong gear and not being able to catch up.

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    z06 should have started in 1st in the 40mph roll but after the shift to 2nd the M3 would start waving goodbye. Great kill. I think the tables will turn once he does headers/intake/tune but with your meth it may be a great neck&neck race.
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    Awesome vid

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    Zim has an awesome coolingmist setup based off boost (progressive controller)...I will be installing an aquamist setup based off boost as well. Were only running 7psi and not tuning for it so any generic kit should work, but I prefer the PWM HFS-4. The Vortech V3 is pre tapped already so its as easy as removing the screw with an allen key and putting the nozzle in there.
    I have it dialed in to perfection Click here to enlarge afr's are @ 11.4-12.3 in 1st 2nd 3rd & 4th 10.9-11.6 in 5th 6th and 7th all the way up to 205mph and intake temps don't pass 113f .. With the ESS cars all you want meth to do is keep intake temps down without effecting the Afr targets that the tune is designed for .....
    in return you will get cold weather performance with out heat soaking on warm pavement Click here to enlarge

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    Oh cool Meth isn't the devil anymore.

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    Its not the devil when you dont tune for it, but you tune for it and no failsafes are implemented then it can be the devil. There was a kid around this area with a Gintani Stage 2+ kit on his M3, he let the meth tank run empty and didnt fill it up for over a week or two and the engine blew (same kid CJ sold his 700+rwhp mustang 5.0 to before he got his E90 M3, he actually bought the 5.0 to replace the M3 if I recall correctly). There is a huge difference leaving the car at 7psi and running meth to suppress IAT, and running the car at 9-10psi using meth as a bandaid.

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    Well put Rick !

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    Its not the devil when you dont tune for it, but you tune for it and no failsafes are implemented then it can be the devil.
    You want to tune for it just like you want to tune for a higher octane file.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    There was a kid around this area with a Gintani Stage 2+ kit on his M3, he let the meth tank run empty and didnt fill it up for over a week or two and the engine blew
    Yep, Ricky, he bought my Stage II+ kit. I mean no offense, but if you are running meth and forget to fill up your tank for weeks what are you thinking?

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    There is a huge difference leaving the car at 7psi and running meth to suppress IAT, and running the car at 9-10psi using meth as a bandaid.
    Bandaid as you termed it is not the amount of boost but using the meth as a fuel source. Suppressing IAT's is one thing but also boosting detonation resistance is another. You can run 9-10 psi with C16 but it isn't realistic hence why meth is popular, especially in the N54 world where they even do use it as a bandaid and for fuel.

    I still find it absolutely hilarious what a radical shift has taken place in the S65 world with meth. It honestly makes me laugh at the earlier comments coming from one camp. Now they look like hypocrites, as they should.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    Well put Rick !
    Do you just blindly agree with people who run the same kit as you? Or do you ever think for yourself?

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    Great race, what was the margin ?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    You want to tune for it just like you want to tune for a higher octane file.
    Yep, Ricky, he bought my Stage II+ kit. I mean no offense, but if you are running meth and forget to fill up your tank for weeks what are you thinking?
    Granted hes an absolute dope for letting it run dry, but this exemplifies my point exactly. If he had the car tuned less aggressively and the boost set to level that was safe to run on pump gas alone, then he would still be driving his car.

    You already know this. If you're tuning for meth the car is more prone to having a catastrophic failure if the meth stops flowing, as opposed to running a small enough nozzle which enables you to cool IAT without having an effect on the AFR targets of the pump gas tune (and just reaping the benefits of cooler air). Lets say 7psi on these cars on pump is safe, and 9-10 psi is too much for 93 octane. If were running 93pump+meth and running 9-10psi what is going to happen when the meth stops flowing due to a clog, etc...? The same thing that happened to Drew (blown motor), KiokenM3 (engine damage), and this kid from here (blown motor) [once again this has nothing to do with companies whatsoever, has to do with tuning the car for more boost/etc... than pump gas alone can handle].






    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Do you just blindly agree with people who run the same kit as you? Or do you ever think for yourself?
    Zim has been non-stop dialing in the meth setup on his car the past two weeks and pretty much has it to perfection now. I dont think it has anything to do with having the same kit, its pretty common sense.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sirex63 Click here to enlarge
    Great race, what was the margin ?
    M3 ahead by a couple cars by 130, and then from there on the M3 walks away pretty hard

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    Granted hes an absolute dope for letting it run dry, but this exemplifies my point exactly. If he had the car tuned less aggressively and the boost set to level that was safe to run on pump gas alone, then he would still be driving his car.
    Right, just like someone who has a race gas tune and puts in pump gas would still be driving their car if they put in race gas. It's simple.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    You already know this. If you're tuning for meth the car is more prone to having a catastrophic failure if the meth stops flowing,
    This is the same as saying tuning the car for race gas makes the car more prone to having a catastrophic failure. Or putting a supercharger on in the first place makes it more prone.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ERM324 Click here to enlarge
    M3 ahead by a couple cars by 130, and then from there on the M3 walks away pretty hard
    Awesome, is there any heavily modded ZO6 that you can friendly race/test with so we/you can check your car's performance against it ?

    On the other hand, you have a beast. Congrats
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    Thank you

    Yes Ive done comparos with other Z06's, my father has a C6 Z06 that runs 9's@140+ (custom head/cam/etc.........). He can start in a gear higher than me and blow the balls out of my car effortlessly. The maximum this car can handle with meth and 625 kit is around a headers/exhaust/intake/tune Z06, and thats a big maybe (with the Z06 in heavy favor). The only way the M3 will stand a chance is if the race is from a 50mph with the M3 in second, and if the race goes on to about 160/180mph (for a 40-130 I think the Z will have the M3 beat...from my experience the Z falls off a little compared to the M3 top end). I've beaten two alpha 9 gtrs with the vette, completely different animal.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Do you just blindly agree with people who run the same kit as you? Or do you ever think for yourself?
    No I don't blindly agree , please go back and read what I wrote about ESS cars bennifiting from meth !
    But for your years you have been claiming Gintani uses meth for cooling and does not tune for it and yet here you have a guy who you sold your kit to and he happened to blow his motor cause he forgot to fill it with meth , but it looks like you blindly repeat whatever you are told to say and don't think for yourself . Sad ..............

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
    No I don't blindly agree , please go back and read what I wrote about ESS cars bennifiting from meth !
    But for your years you have been claiming Gintani uses meth for cooling and does not tune for it and yet here you have a guy who you sold your kit to and he happened to blow his motor cause he forgot to fill it with meth , but it looks like you blindly repeat whatever you are told to say and don't think for yourself . Sad ..............
    You will +1 anyone with an ESS kit and I have yet to ever see you make a good critical point on your own without being negative or a fanboy.

    What are you talking about? I just said if you tune for higher octane like the Stage II+ kit you should definitely make sure your meth tank if filled. If you tune for the octane boost you will get a larger power increase than if you do not. The standard Stage II kit can be used without a file specifically for higher octane. It's the same damn thing as if you tuned for race gas. What don't you get? I don't think you even understood what I wrote as I 'm not repeating what anyone else in the thread stated I'm making my own point.

    Just wow dude, just wow.

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