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    so wait modes 6mt only did 13.2?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by folgrz Click here to enlarge
    But when its all so simple to just tap a button to upshift, its obvious why he lost.
    With launch control you don't even need to tap a button... automatic perfect shifts at redline through the first 5 gears like a boss.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    so wait modes 6mt only did 13.2?
    Yep, a poor 60 foot will do that.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yep, a poor 60 foot will do that.
    well that just shows i would win =D

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    well that just shows i would win =D
    No, you wouldn't. Not with someone who could launch better...

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    you mean better traction. common 1st time mistake. its not a stoplight.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    No, you wouldn't. Not with someone who could launch better...
    it's funny that you find every single excuse for an M3 but not for me, i also ran in a car that was not mechanically 100% i had more than one issue and trapped stock times.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    it's funny that you find every single excuse for an M3 but not for me, i also ran in a car that was not mechanically 100% i had more than one issue and trapped stock times.
    It isn't an excuse, look at the trap. You have an automatic, you just load your torque converter and go. Launching a manual is much harder.

    Stop saying you had issues and go top these traps/times. I mean you aren't beating M3's but sure you can improve.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    It isn't an excuse, look at the trap. You have an automatic, you just load your torque converter and go. Launching a manual is much harder.

    Stop saying you had issues and go top these traps/times. I mean you aren't beating M3's but sure you can improve.
    i will deff out trap that 6mt that's 1 and two with amount of TQ and how low it starts it's not as easy as you seem to make it, my tires are also 255 which is very skinny for this much TQ i had to baby the thing at the start.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    i will deff out trap that 6mt that's 1
    Definitely? Without more mods, I don't think so. I mean the DCT hit 115 and the manual doesn't have less power it just needs a better driver. Your car is not as quick or fast.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
    my tires are also 255 which is very skinny for this much TQ i had to baby the thing at the start.
    With drag radials the width isn't a big deal, it is more about sidewall.

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    Sticky but correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure I am right..

    Isn't the 1/4 mile record for a stock E9x M3 12.3@114.9 in a 6 speed car. Short first gear = better launch.

    This is a cool comparison but doesn't say much unless we know how the 6 speed driver drives.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    I have mine set for the (almost) end of 4th gear (120). I end up hitting this, and get annoyed I don't have a digital speed readout unless I press BC... It's annoying, yet is probably better to get a reminder that I am going straight to jail.

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    Both are nice cars - I have the "same" (color/trans) e90; looks like DCT is worth what is claimed, egh?

    I had these cars mixed up this entire time. I thought the blue had DCT - just watched the video, and promised myself to never post about one until watching again. Click here to enlarge

    Sorry for the confusion.

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    Just give that MT M3 to that Ranger guy, the one who ran 10s@130 in the stock Z06. Dragtimes in Manuals are very driver dependant IMO. I still think the DCT would run a little faster, but not a 3mph diff.

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    The DCT is always going to be faster then the 6spd. Closer gears and faster shifts for the DCT.
    C63 Tuned Only 60-130 in 8.71

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by onurleft Click here to enlarge
    Sticky but correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure I am right..

    Isn't the 1/4 mile record for a stock E9x M3 12.3@114.9 in a 6 speed car. Short first gear = better launch.

    This is a cool comparison but doesn't say much unless we know how the 6 speed driver drives.
    Yes that is the record, somewhere around there.

    However, this was a direct comparison. Same time, same place. Interesting to see, right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    Just give that MT M3 to that Ranger guy, the one who ran 10s@130 in the stock Z06. Dragtimes in Manuals are very driver dependant IMO. I still think the DCT would run a little faster, but not a 3mph diff.
    True, this also shows how good a driver in a manual needs to be to even compete with the DCT.

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    As ERM mentioned, that is Bart@AUTOCoutures car. He doesnt really drag it, but it is one mean sounding street car.

    I will put vids up of the 'ACM exhaust' we make. Fraction of the cost of the BMW Performance exhaust, and more sound to boot Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@AUTOCouture Click here to enlarge
    As ERM mentioned, that is Bart@AUTOCoutures car. He doesnt really drag it, but it is one mean sounding street car.

    I will put vids up of the 'ACM exhaust' we make. Fraction of the cost of the BMW Performance exhaust, and more sound to boot Click here to enlarge
    +1 on the exhaust - im very close to swapping my gintani rear section for the ACM...way too much drone even with the sport, I was shocked the ACM rear doesnt drone even with a catless xpipe.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    True, this also shows how good a driver in a manual needs to be to even compete with the DCT.
    Bingo. And at the end of the day, machines will always be better than humans. I'm the biggest 6MT fan in the world but I'll still admit that DCT > 6MT. How could you hate something that performs flawlessly time after time? But nothing beats the fun factor of a 6MT.
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    I disagree, dct is just as much fun as manual

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    I disagree, dct is just as much fun as manual
    I own a N54 135i and I love driving the DCT M3! On the track it's always in the right gear, and on downshifts it sounds incredible. When you're on the track with the DCT M3 you're more focused on your line and driving technique than worrying about shifts. I've had this debate many times with different people and the best thing is to go drive one. There's a reason why F1 cars use this technology. It's almost like not wearing track shoes to run a race, that's where my manual fits in...2nd place! LOL!
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    ^gets it.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    ^gets it.
    Thanks. Sticky if they made my car or even the 1M with the DCT both would be a serious problem!
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    For some reason BMW is not offering DCT much. Why?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
    For some reason BMW is not offering DCT much. Why?
    Cost.

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