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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GetSomeE92 Click here to enlarge
    Not a bad start at 474. While I'll never be the guy to get a single turbo, it is interesting to see what others can do with the platform.



    Ture, but the C6 Z06 weighs considerably less.
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    Chris, sorry to hear and I know that must be frustrating. But as you can see, maybe there are some alternative solutions out there. If you do go through with re-designing the manifold, maybe there are a few things you guys could do to make it extra special, if you know what I mean... *cough* twin-scroll

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    And the plot thickens
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Not vs the 1M. Click here to enlarge

    Chris, sorry to hear and I know that must be frustrating. But as you can see, maybe there are some alternative solutions out there. If you do go through with re-designing the manifold, maybe there are a few things you guys could do to make it extra special, if you know what I mean... *cough* twin-scroll
    twin-scroll would be the sweetest of them all for sure!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Forcefed Click here to enlarge
    And the plot thickens
    Honestly, this has always been part of the plot, but not everyone saw it. I spoke w/ CP-e over a year ago, and they advised me of this issue. A few others brought it up as well, but I was hoping HPF had some kind of ace up their sleeve...

    Terry is right on with his suggestion, the banks need to married somehow.

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    Ditch the Shiv part and you'll be fine. Click here to enlarge

    +1 on Twin Scroll.

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    We didn't have issues with the sensors dying pre-turbo.... FWIW. We did have major issues with the tuning platform.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ar design Click here to enlarge
    We didn't have issues with the sensors dying pre-turbo.... FWIW. We did have major issues with the tuning platform.
    So get on it, put it back into production.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ar design Click here to enlarge
    We didn't have issues with the sensors dying pre-turbo.... FWIW. We did have major issues with the tuning platform.
    IIRC you did the two sensors post turbo setup like HPF right? I remember hearing the AFR was going wonky on the standback.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Not vs the 1M.
    Yes it does. The Z06 weighs 3180 pounds.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Not vs the 1M. Click here to enlarge
    1M is not that light...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
    1M is not that light...
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    Lol ok yeah, a certain package with a certain driver is going to be slightly lighter than me, sometimes heavier... so what? Is it that with no gas, fluids, etc?

    If I make 50-100hp more it's not going to matter. Hell, I'll just take my back seats out and drive on a 1/8th tank of gas, and get lighter, wider wheels.

    Either way, a 1M would hang with a Z06 assuming it puts 474whp out. Not saying it's going to pull or anything. And at 585whp:

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    That's the N54 at 20psi. The current Procede firmware won't go over that. The MAP sensor limit is 23psi. I mean, look at the torque curve! It's still going.....

    Any yeah, obviously you can mod the Vette. I could of gotten one. In fact, I've convinced someone close to me to get one. I'm not saying the N54 is king It just doesn't drive as nice, apples to oranges.

    Just don't see why there is a negative attitude towards the N54 when it has now made 585whp with a BOLT ON turbo kit on STOCK internals and head! And it's still in it's baby stages! Well, actually I could think of a few reasons why.... Click here to enlarge
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    Yeah, hating on N54 was cool for a short period, but not anymore.

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    I'm not hating on the N54 in any way, but I would say that even if you have a FBO 1M, I still believe the Z06 will walk you in 9/10 scenarios...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
    I'm not hating on the N54 in any way, but I would say that even if you have a FBO 1M, I still believe the Z06 will walk you in 9/10 scenarios...
    With Shiv's Turbo kit? I disagree. I've dyno'd them and they are mid 400s on a Mustang Dyne. The previous gen Z06 are around 350-360whp. Shiv's 585whp is probably like 530-550 on a Mustang. But you never know with Turbo cars because load-based dynes load the car up better, obviously.

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    No stock zo6 is going to touch a n54 with 585 whp, not in a straight line anyway. Around the track i still think a 1m will get beat by a bone stock zo6

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Laloosh Click here to enlarge
    No stock zo6 is going to touch a n54 with 585 whp, not in a straight line anyway. Around the track i still think a 1m will get beat by a bone stock zo6
    The Z06 comment was brought after the 474whp figure from HPF dyno.

    585whp is a different story.


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    Yes, in my opinion 474whp would hang with a Z06 in the 1series chassis assuming no driver error or other issues, in a straight line. It would be damn close, maybe the Vette winning out from drag at higher speeds. Not sure what their drag coefficient is.

    585whp would pull a stock Z06 for sure. As far as the track, it's so driver dependant that I don't usually comment. But In my opinion a 1M could definitely be built to hang or beat a stock Z06 at the track. Beating meaning the same driver would be faster in the 1M after getting used to both cars.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    The Z06 comment was brought after the 474whp figure from HPF dyno.

    585whp is a different story.
    Exactly. And the Z06 is still lighter.

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    This is off topic and I don't care much about arguing, but with the price and availability of a 1M, I'd rather pick up a used C6 Z06 and mod it for the same price. You won't touch a properly modded Z06 without taking out your entire interior and running at least 585 whp in a 1M.

    Modded car vs. stock car is a moot argument. I love the N54, but no N54 equipped car is in the same league as a Z06 or a GTR. Even if you can manage to keep up in a straight line...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Brey335i Click here to enlarge
    This is off topic and I don't care much about arguing, but with the price and availability of a 1M, I'd rather pick up a used C6 Z06 and mod it for the same price. You won't touch a properly modded Z06 without taking out your entire interior and running at least 585 whp in a 1M.

    Modded car vs. stock car is a moot argument. I love the N54, but no N54 equipped car is in the same league as a Z06 or a GTR. Even if you can manage to keep up in a straight line...
    You make a good point and I would prefer a modded Z06 as well but the answer to tuning the N54 isn't to sell the car and buy a z06.

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    I was recently looking at a few Zo6 and a ZR1. Performance-wise, it cant be beat. I just cant stand such a large front end car with no comforts ive grown accustommed to. Obviously its purpose built so its understandable.Same with the 'stangs, all this talk of 700+hp with $6k invested, totaling less than my current car note, is mighty tempting. But anything over 500hp in a bmw is gravy because you get the best of both worlds. To have all the comforts of the beemer, and even to be able to put up a good showing against such purpose built cars, is a win to me.

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    Sorry but no 1M is going to run what the z06 ran at the ring even with similar or more power. The z06 platform is pretty brutal.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    Sorry but no 1M is going to run what the z06 ran at the ring even with similar or more power. The z06 platform is pretty brutal.
    That's a bold statement for something that hasn't and will probably never be done. I've learned not to underestimate anything...I'll do the same for this argument.

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    No modified N54 high boosted street car will hang with a modified high boosted forced fed Street Z06/ZR1 LS7/LS9 would be more realistic.

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