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    F10 M5 vs 13' GTR - Autocar

    I love watching these reviews but find it sort of unfair that the RWD car had to face the AWD car while it was damp. Still held up well for it's size though..


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    Idiotic comparison. Four door sedan vs a two door sports car. DUH.

    Almost as bad as this comparison:



    Amazing how well the B7 did though...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
    Idiotic comparison. Four door sedan vs a two door sports car. DUH.

    Almost as bad as this comparison:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6JTR95mpFc

    Amazing how well the B7 did though...
    When you are comparing your dollars however...
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    Not fair Awd vs rwd.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    When you are comparing your dollars however...
    You dont buy a M5 because its a bang for the buck... Just another senseless comparison...
    Someone who is looking for a 5 seater luxury sedan isnt really on the market for a 2 seater sports coupe... Its not always about being the FASTEST on the street for everybody... For each his own.

    With that logic, a Z06 is better than a Bentley...its faster and cheaper... Right?...

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    what a stupid comparo
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    how about in the dry from a 40 roll???

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    I don't see it as stupid, its a car vs a car, if you drive a GTR or M5 and the orther car wants to race are you going to decline and so no this has four doors, no!!
    Its a good thing to know what's going to happen, in real world racing awd is always going to have an advantage...

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    Actually pretty impressed with how well the M5 held up. Kinda silly you can tell they didn't even turn traction control off for the launch...of course the RWD is going to go nowhere
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    Fair or not, it made for a cool video.
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    Unfair...sure.

    But really BMW doesn't offer a car that comes close to GTR performance. Guess they picked the lastest and greatest BMW offering.


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    Autocar compares the new F10 M5 to the 2012 Nissan GT-R - Flawed comparison?

    Someone needs to get British people to stop reviewing / comparing cars. The main similarities between the M5 and the GT-R are that they have twin turbocharged motors mated to dual clutch transmissions. The M5 is a luxury sport sedan that is heavier and rear wheel drive. Comparing the two in a sprint from a stop where the M5 can not apply its power on street tires makes no sense. A roll on comparison would have been far more telling of the horsepower difference rather than allowing an all wheel drive car to showcase why all wheel drive is useful from a stop.

    The only merit to this comparison is that seemingly for once a video is not being made right after a torrential downpour. The GT-R is a different type of vehicle that was aimed at the 911 turbo. If you feel this comparison makes sense, then comparing the M5 to a 911 turbo makes sense as well.

    The British simply do poor comparisons and this is beyond sub-par. If BMW will send us an M5 and Nissan will send us a GT-R we'll show these people at Autocar how enthusiasts really compare these cars by doing a 1/4 mile comparison from a stop giving the M5 proper rubber and putting it on a strip using launch control on both vehicles. Additionally, how about some dyno numbers? How about some roll on comparisons? If you are going to make this comparison, at least do it in a manner that will not hamper the M5.

    Autocar chooses the GT-R. You know what we choose? To stop taking British automotive reviews seriously.

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    I want to punch the guy reviewing these cars!

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    5 - 0!! Not fair to compare M-car to a performance car.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 654 Click here to enlarge
    5 - 0!! Not fair to compare M-car to a performance car.
    Well the M car is supposed to be a performance car...

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    Cool video but it ends there... these cars were never a competition and truth be told the only place I could see the M5 winning is in luxury and comfort, I would be shocked even if the M5 won the roll race (it's still a heavier car with a DCT not quite up to par with the Gtr). The M5 is a perfect blend of luxury and performance; the GT-R is a track bred car... 'ring times will tell the difference between these two cars. I am actually shocked that Autocar would do something so stupid; they generally do a good job... find a CLS63 AMG to compare the M5 to and we'll talk...

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    What a stupid comparison. And the guy makes this face like he just unveiled the truth. Stupid.

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    I thought it was a dumb comparo, not because its 2 vs 4 door or awd vs rwd, but because the M5 lost in a series of tests that it was never meant to be the best at. M5's always been dubbed "autobahn cruisers". There not meant to be launched from 0 or to break track records.
    How about next time they compare refinement, ride quality, noise levels, overall feel, comfort, chick meter, etc. Add these into the comparo and i dont think the GTR's performance specs are enough to win. This comparo was deliberately meant for the GTR to come out on top. They still trying to de-throne the king!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by lughed Click here to enlarge
    I thought it was a dumb comparo, not because its 2 vs 4 door or awd vs rwd, but because the M5 lost in a series of tests that it was never meant to be the best at. M5's always been dubbed "autobahn cruisers". There not meant to be launched from 0 or to break track records.
    How about next time they compare refinement, ride quality, noise levels, overall feel, comfort, chick meter, etc. Add these into the comparo and i dont think the GTR's performance specs are enough to win. This comparo was deliberately meant for the GTR to come out on top. They still trying to de-throne the king!
    Exactly, the M5 was never a car designed to excel at every performance statistic. People just look at the GT-R's numbers. The M5 is a great all around car just like the M3. It does everything well, it isn't a robot with no soul from Japan aimed at a specific set of performance numbers.

    I doubt BMW ever took the M5 on the ring with a GT-R in front of it letting the world know who it was aiming at. The fact the M5 can be compared to the GT-R or someone even thought it was a good idea speaks more highly of the M5.

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    I agree this comparo is retarded.

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    This English guy is a first class idiot. Wow.. A 4 door luxury sport sedan being within inches of a pure sports car is already a hands down win. I hope i never meet this guy..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by wbm Click here to enlarge
    This English guy is a first class idiot. Wow.. A 4 door luxury sport sedan being within inches of a pure sports car is already a hands down win. I hope i never meet this guy..
    I hate watching this guy review or compare cars.

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    that b7 vs CLK BS video is even dumber than the GTR vs. M5 video IMO

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    Next up: the ZL1 camaro vs M5!

    Really? This dip$#@! couldn't find a CTSv, S6 or E63 to compare?

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