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    No diesel BMW M models for the United States, huge letdown

    Thank you for kicking your American performance enthusiasts in the balls yet again BMW. Fortunately, we are used to it (CSL, GTS) so it no longer hurts the way it used to. Would someone please make sense of this? BMW hypes the hell out of its new X6M50d with teaser videos telling us how great of an "M" it is and gets us all turned on at the prospect of a high performance diesel only to leave us hanging. BMW, you are the girlfriend from hell.

    Reports coming in from the NAIAS (North American International Auto Show) state that BMWNA product manager Paul Ferraiolo said the decision for now is that the cars will not come to the USA. Further confirmation came from BMWNA M brand manager Matt Russel who stated the chances for the M diesels coming to North America are pretty slim.

    So what was the point of all this? We want more diesels in North America. We want a high performance diesel option. You are about to be surpassed by Audi. Sell us as many models as you can. Diesel demand is up by huge numbers in the USA. Why in the world will you not capitalize on it? This is a love-hate relationship if there ever was one. BMW, stop toying with us.

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    Damn..... Diesel cars are amazing... great MPG, lots of torque. We need more of them here!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by persian54 Click here to enlarge
    Damn..... Diesel cars are amazing... great MPG, lots of torque. We need more of them here!
    This decision is idiotic. Oh great, more hybrids for us.

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    How good is the quality of diesel in the States and the Sulphur content?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
    How good is the quality of diesel in the States and the Sulphur content?
    I believe @Ronin had a great thread on this topic.

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    This is... Beyond stupid... Considering that the Hybrids do so well here in the states (sarcastic).

    Who is BMW surveying when they do these things? Obviously not the performance & mod junkies... probably the 50 - 70 year olds who drives the 5 or 7 series like they are driving Miss Daisy (I know there are a few 50+ year olds who are performance junkies, so I'm not trying to stereotype).

    Audi is looking better and better at this point... No 40d here in the states, no M diesels in the States... BMW is making a bad decision (considering that the X1, X3, X5 and X6 series for example is built in the United States, so what sense does it make to not offer it in the States)
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FLYING X5 Click here to enlarge
    Who is BMW surveying when they do these things? Obviously not the performance & mod junkies...
    It doesn't make much sense considering the X5 and X6 are built in the USA as you wrote.

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    No bull$#@! - these idiots need to start polling forums like this for data... Actual enthusiast who buy multiple M cars, tune them, etc... Boo.Cheers.

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    SOB mother falkersClick here to enlarge WTF are they thinking, they saw how the 335d sold in certain areas succesfully and now pull the rug under our feet to land in a pile of horsesheit. Boy Im glad I bought my 335d but if i would of waited longer, the AUDI DIESEL would been my choice with its new DIESELS. BMWA you totally Fup with us Click here to enlarge expect many to jump in the AUDI bandwagon!!!Click here to enlargeBoy am I pissed at this crap. And I aint even buying an "M" car whatsover since I hv my 335d

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    That's sucks. My buddy just got a 2012 335D last week. I rode in it yesterday and really liked it. Too bad the U.S. market doesn't understand diesel is better.

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    I enjoy reading the more emotional Sticky. Advocate of the deprived American enthusiast. I've been a diesel fanboy for ages; before BMWs, I drove a w126 300sd, w123 300td, and a w123 240d. M diesel sounds like pure win. And an appropriate use of heavy technology given the chassis.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BoostAddict Click here to enlarge
    That's sucks. My buddy just got a 2012 335D last week. I rode in it yesterday and really liked it. Too bad the U.S. market doesn't understand diesel is better.
    Not to nitpick, but your buddy didn't get a 2012. Not possible. Click here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by bluejeansonfire Click here to enlarge
    I enjoy reading the more emotional Sticky. Advocate of the deprived American enthusiast.
    I always provide my opinion but sometimes I have to tone it down to be more professional on the blog/news side of things. When BMW pisses me off it is difficult to hold back.

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    http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/10/bmw-still-has-no-plans-for-1-series-hatch-in-states-x6-like-x/

    All that's being said right now is that there's no diesel variants coming in 2012. That doesn't mean that they won't bring them back over in future years.
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    Looking at this again, I am still a bit depressed. I really think the 335d is a great car - with the M sport package, it would be an ideal road trip - or just daily driver. It handles good, pulls hard - basically does everything well while getting good to excellent gas mileage considering the performance.

    I am really curious to see the sales numbers on this car - both here and overseas. Does anyone know how to get at these numbers? I am wondering if the sales were terrible on the 335d - and they based their choice on this?

    On another note (possible another thread) - remember the jags oversold the 1m that was beaten-in as opposed to broken in? Well, looks like they are trying to get on the good side of the media -

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    I always provide my opinion but sometimes I have to tone it down to be more professional on the blog/news side of things. When BMW pisses me off it is difficult to hold back.
    IIRC, the new head of BMWNA is another german tool that knows dick about the U.S. market. Might explain a lot.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
    I am really curious to see the sales numbers on this car - both here and overseas. Does anyone know how to get at these numbers? I am wondering if the sales were terrible on the 335d - and they based their choice on this?
    There's a thread running around on one of the forums with this information...but I'm not sure which one. I'll see if I can find it.
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    From what I heard the X5 diesel and 335 diesel are high demand models.

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    2011, my mistake. All i know is, it is brand new and i really like it.

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    Great decision by bmw. A M-diesel in the US is completely useless, with diesel prices the way they are.

    My brother-in-law had a x5d, he ended up spending more on fuel than his buddies x5 35i. At times it cost $85+ to fill up.

    I couldn't imagine a MX6d eating diesel.

    The 335d is a different story, it gets much better mpg.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    Great decision by bmw. A M-diesel in the US is completely useless, with diesel prices the way they are.
    Disagree completely. This would equate to all diesels being useless and plenty of guys have 335 and X5 d's.

    This would get much better mileage than an X5M which plenty of people buy.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Disagree completely. This would equate to all diesels being useless and plenty of guys have 335 and X5 d's.

    This would get much better mileage than an X5M which plenty of people buy.
    Yeah, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but that's a pretty silly way to look at things (talking about M3_WC's comment). And what do you mean about diesel prices? You talking about fuel? It more than makes up for itself in the long run, and, the winter prices are always more ridiculous (winter blend so that the diesel doesn't gel).
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ronin Click here to enlarge
    ou talking about fuel? It more than makes up for itself in the long run
    Bingo.

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    @Ronin and STICKY I agree with you guys, even though I spend more cash at the pump I come to realize 1) I have a Bigger tank than my 02 MCS 2) Its fun to drive 3) I have put on more miles than I used to on my MINI 4) TORQUE TORQUE TORQUE love it!!! 5) and with my RENNtech upgrade I find my car PRICELESS Click here to enlarge

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