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    ETS 5" FMIC... thoughts?

    Been looking into and researching into a few FMIC for my N54..AMS, HPF, ETS, ER...

    Ive been looking into the ETS 5" since the price is so good and it almost requires no cutting to lil of anything.. Along it comes with a up routed piping with quality t-bolt clamps.

    Just wanted to see what everyone thought on this FMIC is, is it effective enough as its a 5".. Can it handle what
    the stock twins can throw at it?

    Or maybe i should go something bigger?

    My second choice was AMS as its a bit more pricey but the end tanks are amazing..
    HPF is the next step higher but im not sure about using the stock connectors and clips.

    Only thing that had me guessing the ETS was the size for going 5 " ( i know there is a 7" but at that price i would get AMS, HPF
    etc.) was if it was effective enough and those end tanks dont looks smooth at all!! not sure how much those smooth end tanks matter.. ETS dont looks good at all compared to AMS's...

    As long as i can get some low IAT compared what my stock FMIC is doing ill be happy.. For a few hundred more i can get the HPF or AMS over the ETS, i wanna make sure for that few hundred im saving by not going AMS or HPF im not leaving alot of cooling on the table.
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    can't go wrong with any of those, especially with stock turbos
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    If its a good deal just get it.
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    I have an ets 5" works fine, IATs flatlined on meth through a 3 gear pull no problems. Even off meth it suppresses heatsoaked reasonably well. But if money is no object spring for the 7 inch.

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    I have an AMS for sale

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    Thanks for the advice guys..
    Josh, send me a pm on price and condition.

    Themyst, thats what im looking for if i do go this route is non meth temps... Im still looking to get meth in the future but at the moment i have a nice hookup for IC's..

    If say the AMS and HPF can cool better then the 5" ETS, then i wont even waste my time looking at the ETS 5"... ill juss ditch out the extra money and do it right.. but looking at how small the stock twins are and the PSI they can push, im not sure how big of a FMIC they need to be cooled..

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    If no meth then I say helix for IAT control/suppression
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    ^^ but keep in mind you'll have to trim a bit with helix, not much at all though...might be the same with others but I wouldn't know for sure
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
    If no meth then I say helix for IAT control/suppression
    You dont recommend the big tom ic?
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    Big tom (kl racing) is great so far but i can't recommend it yet as I haven't collected and reviewed proper data on it yet...

    OP is looking for best IAT control fmic no meth and given data ive seen posted in the past helix is far superior in that respect and heat soak

    Big Tom will definitely do its job at fraction of price but it remains to be seen how it stacks up against 2-3x more expensive alternatives some of which are obviously of higher quality, again helix comes to mind
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
    Big tom (kl racing) is great so far but i can't recommend it yet as I haven't collected and reviewed proper data on it yet...

    OP is looking for best IAT control fmic no meth and given data ive seen posted in the past helix is far superior in that respect and heat soak

    Big Tom will definitely do its job at fraction of price but it remains to be seen how it stacks up against 2-3x more expensive alternatives some of which are obviously of higher quality, again helix comes to mind
    I still want that pressure drop data dzenno... Anxiously awaiting.
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    I had the ETS 5". Used that intercooler through Texas summers... very good product. Can't speak for many other brands as I don't have first hand experience...
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
    I still want that pressure drop data dzenno... Anxiously awaiting.
    I won't have pressure drop data as i don't have the gauges to properly do that but i will compare the same tune wgdc wise against the v1 helix that i had...in fact i've already looked at it briefly and can tell you already there seem to be no changes, i.e. no additional wgdc is added to hit the same boost targets with the kl racing fmic vs. the helix, but i like to back up my sh*t up with some logs for clarity
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    Thanks for everyones advice..

    Dzenno what makes u choose the helix over HPF and AMS FMIC's?

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    Just talking helix AMS and big Tom...I haven't looked into hpf or ETS much and I'm not saying those are bad options..they're all great and much better than stock..helix I have personally run, as well as big Tom..AMS I've seen tons of logs on

    Honestly man, it's like splitting hairs with them at the boost levels we're pushing..they're all very close and thus my initial post saying that the 5" ETS will do

    I don't like getting into discussions on "best" fmic really as 1) I'm not an fmic design expert 2) I'll never get a chance to try all of them. At the same time I think people are splitting hairs on fmics just like intakes and exhausts on this car when looked at from a high level...

    Real world example: Irishace had an AMS and I had helix a few times at the strip, no meth. We'd both be heat soaked pretty soon. Then what, does it matter I paid 999 and he paid 699, not to me..all the data and analysis is good stuff to talk about and discuss to learn things but then to say one will be worth it's money over the other, I really wouldn't go that far
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    Yup i completely agree with you.. and at the end of the day really is why i just said the cheaper ETS 5" will do.. But always open to hear views on the forum and owners experiences.

    I thought i missed something where u tested a few of the FMIC.. Thanks man..

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    I have an HPF b/c I got tired of waiting for the ETS 5". If I hadn't cut up my shroud I'd swap my $1000 HPF for that ets 5". I don't think the size matters that much and I'd prefer the bigger inlet/outlet. In any case my IATs are never over 90 deg. regardless.

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    I'll actually run my tests with big tom fmic to match the runs posted by ETS here:

    http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11050679

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
    ^^ but keep in mind you'll have to trim a bit with helix, not much at all though...might be the same with others but I wouldn't know for sure
    Dzenno, thanks for the Helix recommendations, FYI the newest version of Helix requires NO trimming on a 335i and very minor trimming on a 135i!

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    i have also had the Helix for over 2 years and no issues at all, never leaked and very good IATs. Quality stuff.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by enrita Click here to enlarge
    i have also had the Helix for over 2 years and no issues at all, never leaked and very good IATs. Quality stuff.
    If I had the $969 + shipping + taxes + customs, I would definitely go for a Helix. Quality stuff is just their first name.
    The thing is that my unit has worked flawlessly for 1 year now and I couldn't be happier, so I don't know what to say...
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    The ETS 5" works awesome on stock turbo cars. We've done a bunch of them, great results every time, and the quality is fantastic!
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    Is 5" the height of the thing? 7" being taller?
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    I beleive its the depth.

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