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    Terry@BMS we need this!!

    6) Dedicated output for 2 Step Rev Limiter/No-Lift/Flat-Foot Shift


    WE NEED THIS NOW!!!!!! lol

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    He knows about it...

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    what do you mean? what does prevent you from doing that?

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    The idea behind 2-step and flat foot shifting came from my testing of the WOTBox...you can get the WOTBox, it works like a charm
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    Seems easy enough. Ordered some parts from Digikey to PWM the signal from the JB4 for real testing. Click here to enlarge


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OUMC32wnEtU

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    This is good. More customers for me to replace their turbos on when they beat the turbos senseless.


    There is a reason why WRC cars replace their turbos after x amount of hours. Because all the anti lag and backfiring beats the bearings and the turbine shaft up..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Yeah
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    This is good. More customers for me to replace their turbos on when they beat the turbos senseless.


    There is a reason why WRC cars replace their turbos after x amount of hours. Because all the anti lag and backfiring beats the bearings and the turbine shaft up..
    A bit dramatic no? I mean they change the entire motor after every couple races with those cars. They are also constantly using it and dont even use this type of anti lag they have fuel and air injected directly into the mani. Sure it's tough on the turbos and I made a comment on another thread about the turbos wearing out abit quicker but if you go on the supra forums who use antilag and their turbos last years.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
    The idea behind 2-step and flat foot shifting came from my testing of the WOTBox...you can get the WOTBox, it works like a charm
    HOLD IT! Dzenno the wotbox works with our motor?!
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
    A bit dramatic no? I mean they change the entire motor after every couple races with those cars. They are also constantly using it and dont even use this type of anti lag they have fuel and air injected directly into the mani. Sure it's tough on the turbos and I made a comment on another thread about the turbos wearing out abit quicker but if you go on the supra forums who use antilag and their turbos last years.
    I would assume that the supra community is a bit more mature than the BMW crowd....e90post gets ahold of this every kid is gonna be 2-stepping it at the light LOL

    Do supra guys even drive their cars a lot? Most of them seem to be garage queens..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    Do supra guys even drive their cars a lot? Most of them seem to be garage queens..
    It's harder to drive 600+ whp on the street. Since it is an older car now and many are heavily modded it is mostly a toy for many.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    I would assume that the supra community is a bit more mature than the BMW crowd....e90post gets ahold of this every kid is gonna be 2-stepping it at the light LOL

    Do supra guys even drive their cars a lot? Most of them seem to be garage queens..
    Not that it matters because this isn't a feature to be used daily or at every stop light. From my experience supra's are constantly at the strip or involved in mile or other events. Your right alot of the more powerful supras aren't DD but as I said this isn't something that is used non stop or that people should FFS every gear. This is something to be used occasionally when you might need a slight edge against a close opponent. Your right if used every single day that wouldnt bode well for the life of the turbos but if used right it'll be like every other mod, wears out your engine more but nothing excessive.

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    Or if were gonna say the supra isn't a good comparison then look up EVO forums. They also use it alot and you can get a significant amount of use out of drag turbos who are heavily anti lagged. I'm just saying nothing compares to a WRC car as those cars are abused more than pretty much any other type of racing. You know their turbos are sometimes 30k? There are teams that replace the motor after every race! No comparison to real life. I'd have been more worried about the mani as that usually cracks before the turbo goes but on these stock cast mani's it should be fine.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    More customers for me to replace their turbos on when they beat the turbos senseless.


    There is a reason why WRC cars replace their turbos after x amount of hours. Because all the anti lag and backfiring beats the bearings and the turbine shaft up..
    i would add that the with this you are retarding the timing, and that in turn rises cylinder pressures dramatically, i would say with enough abuse you would see a head gasket blow before the turbine shows enough wear to be the cause of failure.

    oh and sticky, i love the new quote selected text process, and also the auto saving of quick replies
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
    i would add that the with this you are retarding the timing, and that in turn rises cylinder pressures dramatically, i would say with enough abuse you would see a head gasket blow before the turbine shows enough wear to be the cause of failure.

    oh and sticky, i love the new quote selected text process, and also the auto saving of quick replies
    This is incorrect. It does not rises cylinder pressure or even raises it either. The idea is for there to be increased pressure in the manifold and turbo hence why it keeps the boost up. Usually what you want is the opposite of what your talking about you want the ignition well past what would be optimal for power but the gasses are still expanding as it hits the manifold and turbo and that adds the pressure keep up boost.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    e90post gets ahold of this every kid is gonna be 2-stepping it at the light LOL
    lol, i cant wait to see the influx of video's.. let alone when i occasionally run into one on the road Click here to enlarge

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    it's very cool. flatfoot shifting is a big difference, and I mean big.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
    Not that it matters because this isn't a feature to be used daily or at every stop light. From my experience supra's are constantly at the strip or involved in mile or other events. Your right alot of the more powerful supras aren't DD but as I said this isn't something that is used non stop or that people should FFS every gear. This is something to be used occasionally when you might need a slight edge against a close opponent. Your right if used every single day that wouldnt bode well for the life of the turbos but if used right it'll be like every other mod, wears out your engine more but nothing excessive.
    Yeah this is exactly what I mean. The E90 community has gotten so immature that they will deem this mod cool and will do it everywhere they can. Then here come the threads of 'BMS FFS killed my turbos, I'm goin to Procede now' ignorance...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    Yeah this is exactly what I mean. The E90 community has gotten so immature that they will deem this mod cool and will do it everywhere they can. Then here come the threads of 'BMS FFS killed my turbos, I'm goin to Procede now' ignorance...
    Besides just the turbos. Not good for your tranny either! can blow a syncrose.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    Yeah this is exactly what I mean. The E90 community has gotten so immature that they will deem this mod cool and will do it everywhere they can. Then here come the threads of 'BMS FFS killed my turbos, I'm goin to Procede now' ignorance...
    No worries your right as with anything else if used in the wrong way it will cause a problem. I wouldnt worry about that scenario above as unless I'm mistaken it's a Procede feature and not a BMS one right?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fastgti69 Click here to enlarge
    Besides just the turbos. Not good for your tranny either! can blow a syncrose.
    Yes if you misshift it can be harmful to your trans but how is that different from regular speed shifting? Also if you've ever FFS you'll see that it makes it significantly easier to shift correctly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
    Yes if you misshift it can be harmful to your trans but how is that different from regular speed shifting? Also if you've ever FFS you'll see that it makes it significantly easier to shift correctly.
    Yes of course I have.

    It's very different than regular shifting because power barely gets cut off, its constantly giving power. When you shift regularly, you lose boost and power isn't constant cause you let off the gas for that split second. A lot less stress on the tranny.
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