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    10 second Garrett single turbo powered N54 (E92 335i)? Not so fast.

    We have been sitting on this story for quite some time but can no longer sit by and not say anything. For a while now, BimmerBoost had been the primary source of single turbo information coming from the user unfor who recently changed his username. His thread was one of the most viewed and rightfully so as N54 people want single turbo information. Things just started to get more and more odd as bold claims came from unfor such as posting a 10 second flat timeslip claiming it was from MIR with a Garrett professional driver and odd dyno charts that looked nothing like what an N54 motor should look like. We hate to tell you this folks, but his performance claims were all lies.

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    We really liked unfor and we liked the support he gave the forum but we can't bite our tongues any longer. It does not matter who it is, we can not allow you all to be blatantly lied to by a kid seeking attention. The truth is what matters first and foremost. When the claims were made and the slip was posted, we contacted Garrett regarding their "pro" driver doing runs with this car as well as their involvement. The e-mails speak for themselves:

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    Hello Joseph,

    I’d be interested to learn more about this as well. Garrett does not have any pro drivers on staff, so I think that there may be a bit of miscommunication going on. I was going to try and read the thread on your forum, but it is unfortunately set up so that only registered members can benefit from the information posted.

    If the slip is genuine, someone has a hot set up.
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    Yeah, we’re mainly all just amateur drivers.

    We haven’t done any work that I’m aware of with a 335i directly.

    Now, this isn’t to say that the person isn’t using a Garrett turbo and certainly doesn’t exclude the possibility that it was a pro driver behind the wheel. They may be laying down some amazing mile runs, but we can’t take credit for direct involvement in the project outside of the possibility that we manufactured the turbo.
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    Hi again,

    I can say with 100% certainty that it was no one that works here. The post is 75 pages long and I’m unable to find the specific post you reference below. The link just sends me to page 73. Our policy here is to not directly post on forums so I’m not sure how to approach this.

    If you’d like, we can do a bit more research to see if we can figure out who this person is. Can you help me figure out any information on the user? Opening pages reference a car being worked on at JE Import Performance. Is this the same car? Where was the race?

    How else can we address? My concern is that this user later posts false information about our company or product and is believed because he/she is seen as a “Garrett engineer”.

    Would a statement from Garrett help?
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    Joseph,

    I read through a bit more. We have no engineers that traveled to Denver. They are making outrageous claims about being connected with us directly. The feeling I get is they are using that to give themselves credibility. We’ve seen it before on other forums – people sometimes feel the need to legitimize what they’re doing by dropping our name. It’s a bit flattering but at the same time concerning.

    I’m not sure where else to take it from here to be honest.
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    “Awkward” is a good choice of words. We definitely appreciate you reaching out to us. Let us know if it gets too out of hand or if something really becomes too concerning.
    As you can see, Garrett has no ties to this project and no Garrett driver drove this car. As a matter of fact, when the "driver" supposedly posted it was the same IP as unfor. This was not mentioned until he was called on it and said the driver was at his house. Well, Garrett has no drivers in Denver and let's be real, who has pro drivers sitting at their personal computers posting on forums at a user's leisure?

    We can't allow claims to be me about Garrett that are unsubstantiated. They have nothing to do with this car and their name should not be dragged through the mud because someone wants to look cool to others on a forum. They are a professional company and as stated did not want to get involved in the posting but were concerned about their name being used. Garrett was not involved with this car and what this poster tried to pull should not reflect on Garrett in any way. Simply unfortunate their name was attached to this.

    If one needs more proof, the slip was claimed as being from MIR. Well, even the laziest person can check on Google to see that MIR slips do not look like what he posted. This is what a slip from MIR looks like:

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    Obviously not a coincidence the slip is cut off to not show where it was stolen from. Also not a coincidence he removed it right after posting it so no one would catch on. Well, too late, as users took screenshots.

    The dynos are stolen/fake as well. One of the dynos posted was simply photoshopped from this dyno:http://forums.evans-tuning.com/viewtopic.php?t=2931

    Unfor's dyno:

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    The original:

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    Clearly a poor photoshop to try to hide the evidence. This dyno he might have created himself:

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    Wherever it came from, it clearly isn't legitimate. If that isn't enough proof, how about this:

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    So i called JE the other day, spoke to a guy, he gave me a conflicting story about unfors car, in that the fuel system is not up and running yet. They are about to install and see if everything works mechanially, and have not even started the tuning side yet....
    How was the car running 10 second passes when it wasn't even running? If you want to BS a time, don't start with a record nobody has gotten anywhere near. Just sloppy work overall but many bought into it.

    We are sorry to burst this bubble but we had to. We know this will likely mean unfor will never post here again. It also means any single turbo info that is legitimate from him will go to our competition and we will have to live with that. The correct information simply outweighs this fairy tale. That is not to say the car does not exist and that the single turbo is not being done. We honestly hope the car is completed and he is happy. We wish him the absolute best. We understand these projects are tough and don't always go as planned. Just don't bull$#@! us. He's a kid, he made a mistake, but anything he says or has said simply can not be trusted.

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    Yep. Quick google image search on the Dyno brought me to Scion website... Busted.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    Yep. Quick google image search on the Dyno brought me to Scion website... Busted.
    Just one part of it, way more to it than that. He has been lying to members and promising things he could not deliver trying to make himself look better than he really was. Just a ton of tall tales.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Just one part of it, way more to it than that. He has been lying to members and promising things he could not deliver trying to make himself look better than he really was. Just a ton of tall tales.
    My concern is this: Why put up a dyno if you know the end result will look nothing like that? Because you never expect it to run.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by klipseracer Click here to enlarge
    My concern is this: Why put up a dyno if you know the end result will look nothing like that? Because you never expect it to run.
    Or you are seeking attention... and then hope people forget when it finally is running.

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    What a douche and a half.........

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    tried to rep ya sticky but it wont let me, i like the last paragraph a lot, always for the correct info, whether it hurts your site or not, good ethics.
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    HAHAHAHA check this $#@! out!





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    I know several manufacturers that can spit out a single turbo kit in no time, the problem still lies there is no fuel solution READILY available. Once fueling is solved the turbo kits will be made. No point making a kit that nobody can use. Click here to enlarge

    Thats the biggest lie I've ever heard.... We've just witnessed someone personally use it to dick tease us for a year.

    EDIT: Theory-> Sticky had a manifold fabbed up and put it on his site for publicity... Worked pretty damn well IMO. Easy to blame it on someone who doesn't exist.
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    Why post the $#@! on another forum but not here dude?! Attention for yourself? Just say what you're thinking man!
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    This is pretty damn funny too:

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    lol.. i knew that dyno sheet was fake from the moment unfor explained why it looked like that. His excuses made absolutely no sense. However, I expected the dyno graph to be completely manufactured, not belonging to a Scion. That would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad. What's the point of misleading everyone?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Trevor008 Click here to enlarge
    EDIT: Theory-> Sticky had a manifold fabbed up and put it on his site for publicity... Worked pretty damn well IMO. Easy to blame it on someone who doesn't exist.
    Who is this coming from?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oddjob2021 Click here to enlarge
    tried to rep ya sticky but it wont let me, i like the last paragraph a lot, always for the correct info, whether it hurts your site or not, good ethics.
    It's better to build the site up with things we can stand behind. This crap went on for longer than it should have but a lot of people including myself were fooled until large cracks became visible and it all fell apart.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Trevor008 Click here to enlarge
    Why post the $#@! on another forum but not here dude?! Attention for yourself? Just say what you're thinking man!
    Ah I see what you mean.

    Don't get it, why didn't he confront me here after already posting?

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    Man he must have no life.... If he put that much effort into idk making money or getting pussy he would be the man... Or in jail Click here to enlarge
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    This is sad. It sucks when someone decides to be an e-pimp and starts spewing lies to make himself feel good. Alot of N54 people were looking forward to see what a single turbo could do to the platform. But sadly, it was all lies.

    Better late than never Sticky, thanks for exposing this guy for what he did. I doubt he'll learn his lesson, he'll just move on to another lie to make himself feel better.
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    Does anyone know if the fuel system has been installed yet? Lostmarine, when are you getting yours?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Trevor008 Click here to enlarge
    This is pretty damn funny too:

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    lol.. i knew that dyno sheet was fake from the moment unfor explained why it looked like that. His excuses made absolutely no sense. However, I expected the dyno graph to be completely manufactured, not belonging to a Scion. That would almost be funny if it wasn't so sad. What's the point of misleading everyone?
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    wow...if anyone was on the regional forums in shivpost for ny/nj/ct this is donald all over again photoshopping slips etc....why couldnt he just say still under development?

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    Se, heres the problem with procede nuthuggers,whether they change their name as a vendor or not, and the shiv himself. They are prone to voice their elite and all knowing opinions after the fact. If they knew it was BS, why didn't he call it? Why did he send a v5 to JE and they sent it back, why did he pester for weeks about a fuel system? Actually, its much more likely that topgear solutions was behind it than.sticky. As I stated before, I've talked to "Unfor "many times, and everytime came from a north jersey #..do we know people that live in north jersey? I think so. My investigation is not over gents..

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Se, heres the problem with procedures nuthuggers,whether they change their name as a vendor or not, and the shiv himself. They are prone to voice their elite and all knowing opinions after the fact. If they one it was na, why didn't he call it? Why did he send a v5 to is and they sent it back, why did he peter for weld about a fuel system? Actually, its much more likely that topgear solutions was behind it than.sticky. oasis I stated before, I've talked to Unfor many times, and overtime came from a north jersey #..do we know people that live in north jersey? I think so. My investigation is not over gents..
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    Lol, its just too easy with a few $ and the right search sites Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    Lol, its just too easy with a few $ and the right search sites Click here to enlarge
    having monies make just about anything easier.....well...i guess everything except for unfors single turbo....lolClick here to enlarge

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    LOL, you mean a fuel system ,nobody cares about the single Click here to enlarge

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