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    I had my first attempt at going thru a V5 to check it's settings, cmon a 30 page manual? It tooknme 20 minutes to figure it all out. The JB4 I was all done and out the door in 5. I prefer the JB4 way of switching maps, and doing it on the fly. The low version of the proceed you ave to shut the car off and do it with the ignition on to access the command center...what a pita....plus no map 2?

    I told my friend to rip out the Taliban Tune and get a JB4... Way more bang for the buck and none of these stupid upgrade BS you have to pay for.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
    If your not having issues, no real point in tryin JB4, except for custom mapping, which I LOVE!!! But if ur car fine, save ur $ until u upgrade turbos, and need to switch
    your right and thats what im going to do but i still play with the idea of getting a jb4 to try it out.......i was under the impression that the procede had better control with upgraded turbos. im i wrong?

    btw I already have my turbos im just waiting on a new set of actuators to come in(supposed to come in monday or tuesday) because mine were defective. also theirs a chance i might wait a little longer to install them because i want to put a bigger compressor wheel on them but idk how long that whole testing phase and what not will take
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    well, as an honest observation, how many upgraded T guys have what tune? and how many have anything to post about it? Thats not to say people arent enjoying what they have, just sayin.. i like my custom mapping that I dialed in..

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    Terry has created one of the easiest to use GUI's that I have ever seen. That plus the price, features (Dash Commands are AWESOME!) and customer support is a WINNING combination. I'm not surprised he has been successful. Click here to enlarge

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
    Terry has created one of the easiest to use GUI's that I have ever seen. That plus the price, features (Dash Commands are AWESOME!) and customer support is a WINNING combination. I'm not surprised he has been successful. Click here to enlarge
    I concur! When I first bought JB3 I was at a procede/JB crossroad as well, but what did it for me was all the fastest cars ran JB of some sort. Maybe they didn't drive the smoothest, or have the prettiest curves...but they were fukin fast! Add the bang to the buck factor and outstanding customer support it was an easy decision for me.

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    There's a reason why JB3/4 not Procede have the fastest times for our cars, just sayin.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
    There's a reason why JB3/4 not Procede have the fastest times for our cars, just sayin.
    Yep, because a service advisor with a lease pushes his car beyond what others can since he does not have to be as worried about safety margin because he will pass the cost of repair (like transmissions) onto the dealership at which he works. Combine that with Sacremento and pulling out weight and you get a discrepency.

    We know the fuel system and turbos have certain limits. There really won't be a huge difference between the two. The real difference is that the JB4 will actually work at high boost since there won't be misfire issues due to the CPS.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    The real difference is that the JB4 will actually work at high boost since there won't be misfire issues due to the CPS.
    Hey hey hey, Shiv has stated numerous times that he fixed the misfire issues on our cars.


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
    Hey hey hey, Shiv has stated numerous times that he fixed the misfire issues on our cars.


    lol, jk.
    Yep, and when the N54 market dries up he will be prepared for life as a used car salesman.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yep, because a service advisor with a lease pushes his car beyond what others can since he does not have to be as worried about safety margin because he will pass the cost of repair (like transmissions) onto the dealership at which he works. Combine that with Sacremento and pulling out weight and you get a discrepency.

    We know the fuel system and turbos have certain limits. There really won't be a huge difference between the two. The real difference is that the JB4 will actually work at high boost since there won't be misfire issues due to the CPS.
    Hotrod only holds one of the records I think. Best overall MPH. Quickest/fastest stock turbo no nitrous, quickest with nitrous, and quickest/fastest with large turbos all belong to various customers. Hotrod is a testing machine though. He's great at finding all the bugs and problems with maps from the performance perspective before we release them.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    Hotrod only holds one of the records I think. Best overall MPH. Quickest/fastest stock turbo no nitrous, quickest with nitrous, and quickest/fastest with large turbos all belong to various customers. Hotrod is a testing machine though. He's great at finding all the bugs and problems with maps from the performance perspective before we release them.
    Yes, I know he does a great deal for you and I understand that. However, I think many people see the time as disproportionate to the average customer and this also gives them a bit of false hope. The way the numbers are presented in my opinion is not realistic.

    I'm glad he helps you and that is commendable as well as the tweaking of the products. However, if others did similar things they would not be in the same situation regarding getting them fixed.

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    But he hasn't needed anything fixed.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by joeyballs Click here to enlarge
    But he hasn't needed anything fixed.
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    I am surprised this misfire issue is still attached to the Procede. Dzenno has done everything including fitting other tunes to try get rid of it. I have tested the V5 up to 19.5psi with no misfire under all conditions including temps from -2 degrees celsius to 39 degrees.

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    so you've done this testing with the RB's then? that's great news! i cannot wait until you have some raw data for us. thanks for the update.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
    I am surprised this misfire issue is still attached to the Procede. Dzenno has done everything including fitting other tunes to try get rid of it. I have tested the V5 up to 19.5psi with no misfire under all conditions including temps from -2 degrees celsius to 39 degrees.
    Thats just DZ though, thats a whole different issue. On custome setups like ours, I dont think anyone holds that as testimony (other than I) and mostly refer to the stock turbo guys that still get them. But for Us, id love to see some more data on what you find

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by George Smooth Click here to enlarge
    I am surprised this misfire issue is still attached to the Procede. Dzenno has done everything including fitting other tunes to try get rid of it. I have tested the V5 up to 19.5psi with no misfire under all conditions including temps from -2 degrees celsius to 39 degrees.
    I'm not surprised really. It is a hit or miss issue and tough to pin down to begin with which is why Vishnu has struggled with it.

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    I thought the misfire with Procede was just happening to automatic cars, is it also affecting the manuals too?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
    I thought the misfire with Procede was just happening to automatic cars, is it also affecting the manuals too?
    I think it has happened with every trans but auto was the most prevalent.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
    It's just a drop in the bucket compared to development costs. We'll take it off the shelf some day. Likely for a future platform whos tuning can support higher retail prices.
    That sounds an awful lot like the next M3...Click here to enlarge

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Yes, I know he does a great deal for you and I understand that. However, I think many people see the time as disproportionate to the average customer and this also gives them a bit of false hope. The way the numbers are presented in my opinion is not realistic.

    I'm glad he helps you and that is commendable as well as the tweaking of the products. However, if others did similar things they would not be in the same situation regarding getting them fixed.
    Well even if you don't just talk the absolute records (fastest, quickest with various mods) the vast bulk of the top times are all JB users...with the exception of like 2 cars. Dragtimes is a pretty good argument in favor of the juice box.Click here to enlarge
    Never thought I would see the day...
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    Life is so much more fun with a nemesis. I miss Shiv. Click here to enlarge
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    I stopped visiting that site long time ago. It's always the same 7 or so boyfriends bashing bms and praising procede. it's even worse than watching gay porn.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Ocbimmer Click here to enlarge
    it's even worse than watching gay porn.
    Hahahahahah!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Forced Air Click here to enlarge
    That sounds an awful lot like the next M3...Click here to enlarge
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    E90 may have the occasional delete... which happens on popular forums. I'm sure the mods can't completely review everything and may not make the best decisions at times... and maybe a little bias, but not as much as claimed here. BUT the forum is much better for information... you learn nothing technical on this forum... bimmerboost is good for gossip and news ONLY. N54Tech is good for kill stories and some technical info, but nobody seems to challenge Terry who is the main technical source, but he doesn't have time for thorough explanation, and his responses are usually short and simple... more of a how do I dial in my car using JB. Most of my info on the N54 started from e90post... good technical threads, other technical sources referenced, knowledgeable car peeps are willing to discuss theory, give opinions, teach... with the occasional inappropriate delete... i'm ok with that. Best forum source for information on the n54.

    I was bored today, so my first bimmerboost post... i'm not opposed to another forum gaining some traction.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JoshBoody Click here to enlarge
    you learn nothing technical on this forum... bimmerboost is good for gossip and news ONLY.
    Really? REALLY? We are on the cutting edge of all the technical aspects for all the BMW platforms. M3post is so far behind on DCT technical information it is a joke. E90post doesn't even know an upgraded transmission has been completed. E90post took OUR thread on upgraded cylinder heads for the N54. Bimmerpost has 0 technical articles just copy/pasted BMW press releases while I have written several myself that are far more in depth than anything I have ever seen over there.

    Look at our front page vs. theirs, case closed. Oh wow, a silver M5 spotted! Here, you get the first details on the low compression M3 builds. You were saying something about technical info?

    Not to mention tuners on the cutting edge of standalone engine management (you know, high-tech engine management beyond a rebranded haltech piggy back?) as well as technical details on basically every BMW motor.

    Have you ventured outside the N54 section to look at anything? You seem to be looking not only narrowly but negatively as we kill them on hardcore technical info and upgrades.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JoshBoody Click here to enlarge
    e90post... good technical threads, other technical sources referenced, knowledgeable car peeps are willing to discuss theory, give opinions, teach... with the occasional inappropriate delete... i'm ok with that. Best forum source for information on the n54
    Occasional delete? Are you kidding me?

    It isn't the best source for information, it is the most biased. It is pretty much useless now IMO. Try and show how your tune compares to another in the real world and watch the thread disappear. How helpful Click here to enlarge I love how people repost details from the single turbo thread here over there. And you saying we don't have the technical info? Please.

    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JoshBoody Click here to enlarge
    I was bored today, so my first bimmerboost post... i'm not opposed to another forum gaining some traction.
    If we have nothing to offer why are they so opposed and scared? We're becoming the main source for technical info, they are becoming relegated to classifieds and regional forums.

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