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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
    They both use the same clutch pack. P/N: 28407842841
    Very interesting.... Twin Turbo V8 with 50% more torque using the same clutch system as the N/A 4.0 screamer?

    I smell big things for the DCT S65 owners!

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
    Very interesting.... Twin Turbo V8 with 50% more torque using the same clutch system as the N/A 4.0 screamer?

    I smell big things for the DCT S65 owners!
    I imagine the difference being the transmission appears to be the same, and the clutch packs.. is how the pressure is applied. Just as mentioned earlier you can program the transmission to apply more pressure to the pressure plates. I believe this is the same dct tranny as in the 135i/is and the 335i. Each most likely programmed differently.

    .. I think the biggest take away here is that there's a market for upgrades due to cross platform usage.

    If each tranny was unique in such a way that r&d for the mechanical parts needed to be done on EACH model I'd say it would be a tough sell to someone like Shep or Dodson. But being its the same tranny in about 5 models, I see a market.

    Hopefully we can convince one of them to invest some R&D.

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    So it's all in the programming Click here to enlarge Someone with access to an E9x M3 DCT + F10 M5/F12 M6 with the DCT should cross reference the DCT files and look for differences in programming. Would be a simple mod to just retrofit the M5/M6 DCT programming to an E9x M3 and get an additional 200 Ft Lb of TQ with some simple software changes.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    So it's all in the programming Click here to enlarge Someone with access to an E9x M3 DCT + F10 M5/F12 M6 with the DCT should cross reference the DCT files and look for differences in programming. Would be a simple mod to just retrofit the M5/M6 DCT programming to an E9x M3 and get an additional 200 Ft Lb of TQ with some simple software changes.
    Has anyone stuck with the oem clutch packs and had programming done? I know someone mentioned they had the upgraded packs and then someone also attempted to program the transmission control to be more aggressive. I have to imagine part of it is torque reduction during shifts, I'm willing to bet the M5 has a bigger torque reduction between shifts. You'd be surprised what a clutch can hold once engaged (with minimal slip). The full face fermaic clutches from southbend (HPF calls them the "HPF Stage 1-3 Clutch") slip like butter but once fully engaged can hold a tremendous amount of power with only a single disk.


    Edit: Key being.. don't allow it to slip. Once it slips a little it will give out quickly.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
    Has anyone stuck with the oem clutch packs and had programming done?
    AFAIK, nobody's figured out the DCT programming
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    http://www.esstuning.com/products/E9...-Software.html

    They told me there was no market for the 335is dct trans though, even though its the same...hmmm.

    Really wish someone could program my launch control to 3,000 rpm.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMWJunkie Click here to enlarge
    http://www.esstuning.com/products/E9...-Software.html

    They told me there was no market for the 335is dct trans though, even though its the same...hmmm.

    Really wish someone could program my launch control to 3,000 rpm.
    The ESS DCT "Upgrade" has been proven to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING VALUABLE. All it does is increase the line pressure, does nothing to alter shift speed or smoothness. That's why nobody with a DCT wastes their money on it.
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    Good to know. I contacted them because of launch control only. Since they offered software I assumed they must of cracked the dct control unit and should not be that difficult to modify parameters of the launch control.

    Someone will do it, its just a matter of time. Half way tempted to code my dct as a 135 and see if it will launch at 3k lol.

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    maybe loading the m5 software onto the m3 dct? like we did with alpina tcu flash?

    EDIT: just say benzy's post

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BMWJunkie Click here to enlarge
    Good to know. I contacted them because of launch control only. Since they offered software I assumed they must of cracked the dct control unit and should not be that difficult to modify parameters of the launch control.

    Someone will do it, its just a matter of time. Half way tempted to code my dct as a 135 and see if it will launch at 3k lol.
    I know that DSLJ5 had started a thread over on M3Post about ESS coding the line-lock & advanced launch control into their DCT flash, but it never materialized into anything. Supposedly the M3's DCT is supposed to have adjustable LC RPMs control, it's somewhere in the owner's manual
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    i still remember when they claimed you couldn't do a burnout without DCT Software what a joke lol.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
    They both use the same clutch pack. P/N: 28407842841

    Just goes to show these can handle quite a bit.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ZooyorQ Click here to enlarge
    I imagine the difference being the transmission appears to be the same, and the clutch packs.. is how the pressure is applied. Just as mentioned earlier you can program the transmission to apply more pressure to the pressure plates. I believe this is the same dct tranny as in the 135i/is and the 335i. Each most likely programmed differently.
    Pressure, yep. All about pressure.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by benzy89 Click here to enlarge
    So it's all in the programming Click here to enlarge Someone with access to an E9x M3 DCT + F10 M5/F12 M6 with the DCT should cross reference the DCT files and look for differences in programming. Would be a simple mod to just retrofit the M5/M6 DCT programming to an E9x M3 and get an additional 200 Ft Lb of TQ with some simple software changes.
    Just to be clear my trans has physical issues due to SSP's work. Their hardware doesn't work.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Just to be clear my trans has physical issues due to SSP's work. Their hardware doesn't work.
    But it is "tried and trued" - just check their website. Click here to enlarge

    http://www.sspperformance.com/produc...-disc-package/

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
    But it is "tried and trued" - just check their website. Click here to enlarge

    http://www.sspperformance.com/produc...-disc-package/
    Works about as well as their customer service.
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    Wow now they are claiming they are "SOLD OUT" Yeah right more like they aren't going to sell them anymore.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by keikdasneak Click here to enlarge
    Wow now they are claiming they are "SOLD OUT" Yeah right more like they aren't going to sell them anymore.
    Where did you hear this?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Where did you hear this?
    There website has "SOLD OUT"

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    For both there sets 600WHP and 700WHP...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MisterEm Click here to enlarge
    But it is "tried and trued" - just check their website. Click here to enlarge
    HAHAHA the 1 "Review" is someone asking if it'll work on their 335 DCT
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by keikdasneak Click here to enlarge
    There website has "SOLD OUT"
    Well that says plenty eh?
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Well that says plenty eh?
    They must be feeling the heat.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by keikdasneak Click here to enlarge
    They must be feeling the heat.
    They haven't even begun to feel anything.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
    Joseph, Joseph oh where do I start….
    From day one you have not paid 1 penny for anything on this transmission build. We have paid for everything, including all the transportation of your vehicle. I just wanted to get that out there, because you seem to always talk like you have spent so much money on transmission build.
    The real reason your car has spent so much time over at Gintani, is that you NEVER PAID your motor build on time.
    After that being said, your car was delivered back to you 1 years ago. Until a week or so ago, you find it convenient to let me know that you may be having an issue with the transmission. My question, why always wait until the last minute?
    I like the part where you say you try to call, but cannot get a hold of us. Really Joseph, I answer my phone and emails 7 days a week.
    I have chosen to “bow out” of this project because of all of your lies. Not only your lies to me, but to Alex as well. I would have been more than willing to help you out with this project at any time. I am sure you will probably delete this post.
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