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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...ocaust/gm.html

    At 6 a.m. on Sept. 1, 1939, Germany launched its Blitzkrieg against Poland, with troops arriving in Blitz trucks manufactured by GM’s Opel. The night before, Sloan reportedly told stockholders that GM was “too big” to be impeded by “petty international squabbles,” according to a congressional investigation.

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    and for the record, I don't think the main focus of the film was for us to stop paying our income taxes, I sure know I'm paying mine--it was to abolish the Federal ReserveClick here to enlarge
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
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    I apologize if just from my memory I was not able to identify the person and date. Although clearly I have a good memory, I am not an encyclopedia.
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    See this is why quote need to have that info. So other people can verify and see if the quoted material conveys the correct context or not. In this case I don't believe so, I read the entire page you posted sticky and really I don't see a thing wrong or out of the ordinary with what GM was doing. American companies have always and will always do business with unsavory people and governments in other countries. Same as our government who today maybe training X rebels and tomorrow maybe fighting against them. Did GM want to sell as many vehicles as possible? Yes that is their job and their duty to shareholders. Did they supply them with ever more lethal weapons of war as the article states? No at least not in the sense the article would like you to believe. They sold trucks not tanks or planes or bomb or weapons they sold trucks. An only until the war began at which point they lost control of what was done. Hindsight is 20/20 and now we see things thru different eyes but all this including the films are 90% quotes and facts taken out of context to further the films agenda. Reminds me of Michael Moore with his documentaries. American companies today deal with governments in Venezuela and Iran and Pakistan and many other people whom we wish perhaps didn't run things but we do it because if we don't someone else will. I'm completely opposite of the political spectrum from all of you I guess, my ideal political system is the one outlined by Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy. I don't believe in sacrificing the strong for the sake of the weak so in that regard I too would have been opposed to FDR's new deal socialism although more so by the tyrannical philosophy of the German national socialist.

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    How about letting those Big, Strong Corporations pay their own bills and defend their own foreign interests instead of making us do it? We pay well for their products, that should be enough. It's what the market would dictate.

    Guess what i'm saying is i'm not even against multinationals, but i draw the line at slavery when it comes to my contempt for weakness and that's essentially what they do with governments. No, i don't feel an obligation to help the weak, but i do feel a libertarian obligation to leave them alone if i want the same in reverse, even if it means leaving them to die. But no getting pro-active about it, ya know?

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Jimefam Click here to enlarge
    See this is why quote need to have that info. So other people can verify and see if the quoted material conveys the correct context or not. In this case I don't believe so, I read the entire page you posted sticky and really I don't see a thing wrong or out of the ordinary with what GM was doing. American companies have always and will always do business with unsavory people and governments in other countries. Same as our government who today maybe training X rebels and tomorrow maybe fighting against them. Did GM want to sell as many vehicles as possible? Yes that is their job and their duty to shareholders. Did they supply them with ever more lethal weapons of war as the article states? No at least not in the sense the article would like you to believe. They sold trucks not tanks or planes or bomb or weapons they sold trucks. An only until the war began at which point they lost control of what was done. Hindsight is 20/20 and now we see things thru different eyes but all this including the films are 90% quotes and facts taken out of context to further the films agenda. Reminds me of Michael Moore with his documentaries. American companies today deal with governments in Venezuela and Iran and Pakistan and many other people whom we wish perhaps didn't run things but we do it because if we don't someone else will. I'm completely opposite of the political spectrum from all of you I guess, my ideal political system is the one outlined by Ayn Rand's objectivist philosophy. I don't believe in sacrificing the strong for the sake of the weak so in that regard I too would have been opposed to FDR's new deal socialism although more so by the tyrannical philosophy of the German national socialist.
    Bud, I didn't say GM did anything wrong only that they sold vehicles to the Nazis. Not like they were supporting Germany's entire war effort.

    You asked for details since my quote from memory was not good enough and I provided it. Analyze it however you wish.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by P31-C63 Click here to enlarge
    and for the record, I don't think the main focus of the film was for us to stop paying our income taxes, I sure know I'm paying mine--it was to abolish the Federal ReserveClick here to enlarge
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    Wanted to say I just received my DVD copy of Freedom to Fascism. Received it ridiculously quickly I might add!

    Sammy, I have absolutely no problem with you posting details on how/where users can purchase this DVD from. I think as an American it is important to get other American thinking and questioning what is taking place with our government and that is exactly what you father had the courage to do and do well.

    I don't consider it advertising but more of a duty, please post purchase details, thanks.

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    Just got mine as well.
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    Hope you guys enjoy it and get something out of it.

    Sticky, thank you, I appreciate it.

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