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    M3 recieves competition adjustment (poor little 302R)

    Teams running the M3 in the Continental Tire Sports Car series receive a competition adjustment.

    Prior to the Barber 200 that took place this past weekend the sanctioning body slapped a rpm-limit on the M3's to 8250.

    There is no doubt in my mind this was done because they were eating the new Boss 302R for lunch. Ford has been on big marketing bonanza, attacking the M3. When actually on the track in "real races", the M3 needs competition adjustments to make it run with a Boss 302R.


    Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge: Barber 200

    Turner Motorsport dealt admirably with Grand-Am's new 8250 rpm-limit competition adjustment using smart strategy and pit work to help Bill Auberlen and Paul Dalla Lana drive the No. 96 BMW M3 to second place in today's Barber 200, consolidating Turner Motorsport and BMW's position at the top of all GS Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge points. Auberlen held the lead for 22 laps in the second half of the race, only losing the point with 4 minutes left in the two-and-one-half-hour contest. He finished just 1.250 seconds behind the class winning Mustang for Turner Motorsport's third consecutive podium finish (including a victory at Homestead Miami Speedway) of the season.

    "Today was a tough day for us," said team owner Will Turner. "It was a real roller coaster. Leading so much of the race was great, but seeing those Mustangs coming was not. We did the best we could with what we had, but that competition adjustment definitely hurt us. We will have to prepare even better for the next race at VIR."

    Bill Auberlen – "That was a tough ending for us. We came in knowing that we would be down on power and luckily Don (Salama) and Will (Turner) were on top of their game. Smart strategy got us to the front, but we could not hang on. Our wings have been clipped so others could just drive around us and that's exactly what happened when Scotty (Maxwell) got next to me coming onto the front straight."

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    What the hell.... the M3 already competes with a smaller motor.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    What the hell.... the M3 already competes with a smaller motor.
    I know, it is complete BS. I have been a big supporter of this series, it provides great racing. But this is a joke.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    I know, it is complete BS. I have been a big supporter of this series, it provides great racing. But this is a joke.
    If the M3 can't rev then the Mustang shouldn't be allowed more displacement. Load of crap, fair competition is one thing but neutering a competitor to make you more competitive is ridiculous.

    This would be like me playing in the NBA only if my opponents had to play on a 15 foot rim and I got the 10 foot.

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    WOW! That is just plan bullsh1t. I wonder how much ford $#@!ed to have them do this to the M3's.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leo985i Click here to enlarge
    I wonder how much ford $#@!ed to have them do this to the M3's.
    I guarantee Ford had something to do with it. They had planned a big year in Continental Tire this year.

    The results from this season was going to be a big part of their ongoing marketing of the Boss 302R.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    I guarantee Ford had something to do with it. They had planned a big year in Continental Tire this year.

    The results from this season was going to be a big part of their ongoing marketing of the Boss 302R.
    Too bad the M3 had to spoil their party by being better.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    If the M3 can't rev then the Mustang shouldn't be allowed more displacement.
    Using that line of reasoning, BMW should have to sell the M3 for $47,000. Slippery slope and all...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 62Lincoln Click here to enlarge
    Using that line of reasoning, BMW should have to sell the M3 for $47,000. Slippery slope and all...
    The Boss 302-R cost $79,000.

    With the Grand-Am homologation package the Boss 302-R cost $129,000.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 62Lincoln Click here to enlarge
    Using that line of reasoning, BMW should have to sell the M3 for $47,000. Slippery slope and all...
    Racing vs. street cars, two different things.

    If you race, bring what you got.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    Racing vs. street cars, two different things.

    If you race, bring what you got.
    Sounds good in principle, but naive. There is not a racing series extant that does not regulate the competitors.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 62Lincoln Click here to enlarge
    Sounds good in principle, but naive. There is not a racing series extant that does not regulate the competitors.
    I would agree if the M3 did not already have a displacement penalty regulating it. This is favoritism, not regulation.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 62Lincoln Click here to enlarge
    Sounds good in principle, but naive. There is not a racing series extant that does not regulate the competitors.
    I am not against regulation, add some weight. Makes them eat their tires up a little quicker. Supposedly the M3's are really easy on tires.

    They are already down a liter in displacement. Isn't that enough?

    You can't have the cars sitting at the dealership revving higher than the race cars. It is a joke.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
    They are already down a liter in displacement. Isn't that enough?

    You can't have the cars sitting at the dealership revving higher than the race cars. It is a joke.
    This is exactly how I feel.

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    racing politics at its best.

    Audi $#@!ed and complained that the Porsche Spyders were beating them at their own game in a lower class. So instead of actually making better cars, they whined until the weight penalties and inlet restrictors became so handicapped it caused Porsche to even have a hard time in their own class, and make them a non existent competitor.

    So Porsche did the next best thing, and pulled their factory cars and sponsorship from the european racing series.

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
    So Porsche did the next best thing, and pulled their factory cars and sponsorship from the european racing series.
    Like what BMW did when Porsche complained the M3 GTR's were too strong in ALMS...

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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
    This is exactly how I feel.
    But wait, you earlier said "Racing vs. street cars, two different things." So the cars at the dealer revving higher than the race cars shouldn't matter.

    Just messing with you! Click here to enlarge

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    Seems like Bernie has a hand in Continental Tire Sports Car series.

    But seriously, neuturing one car that has a smaller engine so a the bigger engine car can compete is just plain sad. I'm sick of these governing bodies trying to "regulate" the sport in the spirit of competition. If a car loses then they need to think of ways to improve it, not penalize the winning car.
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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
    But seriously, neuturing one car that has a smaller engine so a the bigger engine car can compete is just plain sad. I'm sick of these governing bodies trying to "regulate" the sport in the spirit of competition. If a car loses then they need to think of ways to improve it, not penalize the winning car.
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