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  1. GM must be taking a page out of Ferrari's book...

    GM must be taking a page out of Ferrari's book for these new magazine tests. They must know how much of the general sports sedan target market is only about bragging rights and that most will never...
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    Also, i'd think they want to retain some of that...

    Also, i'd think they want to retain some of that torque for the street and not go full on racing engine. From some of the videos Ive heard it still has some of that coyote throatiness at the lower...
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    I'd bet final hp numbers are closer to 550 than...

    I'd bet final hp numbers are closer to 550 than 500, and that even then the car will be underrated from the factory. Apparently in endurance testing they've gotten the engine running at 10k rpm,...
  4. The S20 seems to be the most logical step for BMW...

    The S20 seems to be the most logical step for BMW to be taking in response to the M133 from the CLA45 AMG and new 375 Hp engine from Audi supposedly slotted for the S3+ (and Golf R Evo or whatever it...
  5. F22/F23/F87: The best possible realistic scenario would be an...

    The best possible realistic scenario would be an M2 with an "S20" with the costs being saved on the interior with only sport seats and steering wheel being the only significant change otherwise this...
  6. F22/F23/F87: I think an M2 is in the pipeline but I think it...

    I think an M2 is in the pipeline but I think it is at least a year away since BMW execs have just started to hint it may be coming in press interviews. As I've said before on one of these threads I...
  7. F22/F23/F87: I think they feel they must segment the types of...

    I think they feel they must segment the types of cars within each model the way Audi has done. You see this beginning with the M135i and a similar strategy with the way they have structured the...
  8. F22/F23/F87: I am just holding out a last shred of hope at...

    I am just holding out a last shred of hope at this point I'd be camped outside the dealership if they did an aluminum block straight 6. It could be done if BMW wanted to, I don't think they will...
  9. F22/F23/F87: Yes I am not sure if the direction M is taking...

    Yes I am not sure if the direction M is taking has officially been mapped out yet. There is currently a move away from the mass market appeal strategy under Dr. Kay Segler that produced the current...
  10. F22/F23/F87: That would be ideal but the estimated pricing for...

    That would be ideal but the estimated pricing for the M2 might make it impossible to achieve that level of weight savings
  11. F22/F23/F87: I think the M2 will only make marginally more...

    I think the M2 will only make marginally more power than the 1m maybe 350-360 and weigh between 3150-3250 and the dynamic element of the car will be the selling point really targeting enthusiasts...
  12. F22/F23/F87: Looks like the M235i is shaping up to be a pretty...

    Looks like the M235i is shaping up to be a pretty good car. Rumor is that the target for the M235i was to beat the 1M's ring time. I think the M2 may have a 4 cylinder turbo engine based on the...
  13. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: I see what you mean. Heres what made me think it...

    I see what you mean. Heres what made me think it was the M3 interior
    http://www.autoevolution.com/news/spyshots-2014-bmw-m3-interior-revealed-47896.html
  14. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: Just noticed this but does anyone know why the...

    Just noticed this but does anyone know why the tach looks like it starts below 0 rpm? Could it be something to do with the electrically assisted turbo system that has been rumored?
  15. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: They look like they are being relocated to the...

    They look like they are being relocated to the drivers side and made slightly smaller maybe
  16. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: 3.0 I6 twin turbo most likely...i'm thinking the...

    3.0 I6 twin turbo most likely...i'm thinking the basic layout will be something like two of the 1.5l 3 cylinder turbo engines designed for the i8 put together with a single scroll and twin scroll...
  17. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: shot of the new m3/m4 interior...looks like there...

    shot of the new m3/m4 interior...looks like there wont be any high revving turbo engine after all

    http://www.autoevolution.com/news-hd-photo/spyshots-2014-bmw-m3-interior-revealed-1080p-5
  18. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: Many more models will be added to the bottom of...

    Many more models will be added to the bottom of the BMW lineup before that ever happens...new 1 series based on the mini platform ( some "active tourer" FWD B class competitor), 2 series aimed at...
  19. F32,F33,F36,F82,F83: The 3 series GT could only have been invented by...

    The 3 series GT could only have been invented by a team of marketers. I think they were going for the buyer who can't decide between a crossover and a wagon but they forgot that those people don't...
  20. M2 is also supposedly in the pipeline as a...

    M2 is also supposedly in the pipeline as a successor to the 1M Coupe in 2015. I think there might be Gran Coupe versions of the 2 series line and M2 also coming sometime after the 2 series in...
  21. This new engine, I believe, will be a...

    This new engine, I believe, will be a electrically assisted twin turbo utilizing 2 different sized turbochargers to decrease turbo lag. That is the direction BMW seems to be heading.
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    W204: US wont even see those lightweight seats because...

    US wont even see those lightweight seats because of airbag rules.
  23. actually i was curious about the weight...only...

    actually i was curious about the weight...only 2866lbs.
  24. I wouldn't be surprised to see the mp4-12c...

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the mp4-12c outperform the 458. It doesn't look as good but its numbers speak for themselves. Apx 600bhp and 443lb-ft available at 2000rpms and it revs to 8500. No...
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