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  1. Given how much slobbering everyone seems to do...

    Given how much slobbering everyone seems to do over the C7...I enjoy watching one be put in its proper place. ~460 hp is still just ~460 hp.

    /when 460 hp is hardly anything anymore
  2. Middle East: Next you're going to tell me the Tooth Fairy...

    Next you're going to tell me the Tooth Fairy isn't real.
  3. Ok I was waiting for one of these - Allegedly...

    Ok I was waiting for one of these -

    Allegedly the Huracan, like a few other modern cars, is power-limited until a certain break-in mileage. After that you get a break-in service and they unlock...
  4. Well, not really, since we see cars that put...

    Well, not really, since we see cars that put almost what they're claimed to make at the crank, at the wheels. It is physically impossible to build a car with that little drivetrain loss. Even a GT3...
  5. This just isn't really true though - we...

    This just isn't really true though - we absolutely can make rough estimates of drivetrain loss - I will reiterate - I've spoken with a powertrain engineer at a major firm who confirmed that the...
  6. One quick note - I cannot remember if it was...

    One quick note -

    I cannot remember if it was Carlos Lago or Matt Farah, but one of them in their review of the S8 mentioned that it indeed has a different crank, rods, and piston (and therefore...
  7. It's possible. They're all old geriatrics...

    It's possible. They're all old geriatrics anyway...mostly. The first W221 S65 I ever saw, back during Christmas '05, was literally full of 4 of the oldest, frailest people I've ever seen still...
  8. Haha. Exactly. Did all of the dynos in America...

    Haha. Exactly. Did all of the dynos in America just break overnight? This all sort of started with the M275 and M113k back in about 03, people realized that these cars were massively under-rated,...
  9. If they don't do it they're shooting themselves...

    If they don't do it they're shooting themselves in the foot...there's a ton of loyal V12 customers, according to what I've heard. It would blow away the M157, and it would be much smoother/sound...
  10. So, uh, if these engines aren't so under-rated......

    So, uh, if these engines aren't so under-rated...

    Please tell me why for years and years, before turbo cars came about and the manufacturers realized it was a nice game to play, under-rating their...
  11. I'm excited for this. Will definitely be the...

    I'm excited for this. Will definitely be the "base" engine, Speed models will hopefully get 650+ hp and 700+ torque. They need to justify their existence compared to the V8, and quite frankly...
  12. 991: This is very true. Porsche built themselves on 4...

    This is very true. Porsche built themselves on 4 cylinders. And we all know about the (horrid) 912. But the sound...the sound kills me. They seem to have tuned it to sound like an anemic vacuum...
  13. They're solidly under 200k now if you're patient...

    They're solidly under 200k now if you're patient and know where to look. I've seen them go as low as upper 170s...with "high" (read: like 10k) miles. Which is nothing. Modern Ferraris are...
  14. 991: Unfortunately seems to be true. Looks like the...

    Unfortunately seems to be true. Looks like the GT cars will be the only 911s/Caymans/Boxsters worth having in the future.
  15. Yeah seriously I thought the hardware was ready...

    Yeah seriously I thought the hardware was ready like at least a year ago...and the tuning has been possible for months now. Getting antsy.
  16. 991: Yeah but they sound like $#@!. And its just...

    Yeah but they sound like $#@!. And its just not right. Even a turbo F6 sounds 100x better.
  17. Can confirm. Certified $#@!, also BMW driver,...

    Can confirm. Certified $#@!, also BMW driver, sometimes.

    No apologies will be issued.
  18. That's damn quick. I like this.

    That's damn quick. I like this.
  19. S85: They do some seriously impressive work there,...

    They do some seriously impressive work there, very few have this level of talent.
  20. The FF AWD system is genius. Really works well...

    The FF AWD system is genius. Really works well for what it's intended for.

    These things are no joke, they're fast as hell. And they sound amazing. And, depreciating quickly.
  21. Holy god, that thing pulls hard. This is crazy. ...

    Holy god, that thing pulls hard. This is crazy. The S63 is going to be a monster once the tunes start to get perfected. Need turbo swaps NAOW.
  22. I still remember watching him do the pre-race for...

    I still remember watching him do the pre-race for the Germany GP back in 2011 and it seems like yesterday...I still can't believe he's basically as good as dead. Very, very sad.
  23. Well this is fun. The fact is, when you look...

    Well this is fun.

    The fact is, when you look at trap speeds, they seem to bear out that the modern AMG and M turbo engines are indeed underrated by quite a bit.

    Also, a 15% drivetrain loss is...
  24. 911/930: I love it, insanity. I usually much prefer the...

    I love it, insanity. I usually much prefer the way the GT cars look but this is excellent.
  25. Yeah I think I've seen something like that. Not...

    Yeah I think I've seen something like that. Not sure if it ever worked. I think a few guys have custom-built stroker kits as well built by machine shops.
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