All fabrication is "made in Canada".
The current "wish list" has about $20k in electronics and wiring. Then theres the brakes, wheels (For drag strip), suspension, and some body work that are around $5k each.
My labor is free, so this is a relative bargain in car building world.
If you could start with either a $500 junk yard chassis, or a $200K exotic, and it's still going to cost you about $100k each to create a competent racing platform. If you are first to develop that platform, that budget can easily double or triple as you work in development and manufacturing of custom parts. I know of one professional team that took $XXk street cars...and spent close to $300k each to build them into class winning cars.
Now...that may seem really extreme...but that depends on your perspective. If you at the top of the "race car" slippery slope, that's a pretty daunting example. But if you are on your way down...or at the bottom...it doesn't seem so crazy once you've been around it. Then there are factory programs like Pratt & Miller that spend over $1M per car and you feel like a bum for complaining about a $30k electronics package.
This is why I stay clear of discussions of which stand alone ECU under $3k is the best, as I've been spoiled by high end hardware and tech support. Really good tech support is often more valuable than the best hardware....which I don't think most people take into account when looking at initial purchase prices. I really don't mind paying full MSRP if the service is phenomenal. (Service from Apex Speed Tech has been phenomenal for me)
Question, do I lose ABS and DSC if I go with a stand alone? I've been considering a Motec.
I wrote up a detailed response on the benefits of switching from DSC to a high end ECU with proper traction control...but then lost it when I posted from an expired connection in my hotel room.
So in short: Change the tires, suspension, and power-train, and the DSC is not going to work as it was designed. With a good traction control system, you can tune for a highly modified car.
How deeply have you been looking into Motec?
- Vipec V88
- AEM Infinity
- Pectel SQ6
- Motec M600
The most affordable would be the V88, and it can be setup to run a flex-fuel sensor.
I just want something safe for track use. I might try and see what Eurocharged can do but haven't made a decision yet. I know that I'm going to severe ties with my current tuner.
i need to determine if the MS45 can fit my needs.
Because pei330ci :)
Summary of the ENGINE electronics package as currently planned:
- 71 Input channels (Including chassis inputs)
- 47 Output channels
- 27 Additional Sensors (In addition to 17 OEM sensors)
Then there's the transmission control which is about another 30 I/Os.
I think by the time I'm done this project, I'll never want to strip another Tefzel wire end again in my life! Don't they make machines for this?
I figured I'd list a bit of a "menu" of electronics that anyone could dig into if they were "hungry":
- ADD Engineering
- AEM Electronics
- AIM Sports
- Bosch Motorsports
- DTA Fast
- EFI Technology
- Life Racing
- McLaren Electronics
- Pectel (Cosworth)
- Powertrain Control Systems
- Pro EFI
- Race Technology
My first post here...
Great Thread! I just found this after following you at my330i.com. My 330i needs this kind of TLC but I can barely change a flat so I just sit on the sidelines.
Neel I must live right around the corner from you! I was wondering if you could recommend a good BMW mechanic on the westside? Just wondering nice to join you folks!
Funny that you found my adventures on the other forum, as I don't publicly promote it's existence. I like to think of it as an "easter egg" for anyone that's willing to dig around enough.
Hopefully this thread will inspire you to become more involved with your own car?
Enjoy in good health,