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    • BMW releases the 2018 F80 M3 CS which is lighter by 110 pounds and more powerful - 7:38.00 Nurburgring laptime

      This is the new BMW F80 M3 CS which follows the recipe of the F82 M4 CS. The engine gets a bump of 28 horsepower on paper to 453 and torque is increased by 37 lb-ft to 443 but this is all done through software. It is the same S55 engine we know and have mixed feelings about due to the crank hub problems.


      What we really want from BMW is an S55 motor with a factory crank hub solution that resolves the issues once and for all. This is BMW however so they will pretend there is no problem, up the boost slightly, and if anything goes wrong blame any aftermarket part on your car for the issue.

      BMW gets some things right which is the quoted 110 pound weight loss. CFRP and carbon fiber make this possible namely with weight savings coming from the hood and roof.

      1200 units will be produced (do not believe BMW when they tell you they will keep a model limited) and roughly 550 will come to the US.

      Is this a major upgrade over an F80 M3? No, just get some ECU tuning software for standard F80 M3 and top the CS for far less money. For those who love their warranty (with the S55 engine issues that is understandable) the CS makes sense.

      More power, less weight, some unique interior bits, and an M Sports Exhaust System. BMW claims a 7:38.0 on the 'Ring but there is no proof.

      This should be a nice holdover until the next generation M3 comes out.












      This article was originally published in forum thread: BMW releases the 2018 F80 M3 CS which is lighter by 110 pounds and more powerful - 7:38.00 Nurburgring laptime started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Eleventeen's Avatar
        Eleventeen -
        Damn! Where'd ya'll confiscate these rims from, man?

      1. quattr0's Avatar
        quattr0 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eleventeen Click here to enlarge
        Damn! Where'd ya'll confiscate these rims from, man?
        Good catch (??)...those rims look familiar lol

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      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Good looking car, good looking wheels (even thought they look like they ripped the design from Porsche), and a good set of brakes to fill them (maybe .5 inches of clearance?)

        The diet was needed (although IMO, should be "stock") - and overall, am (sadly) sure people will buy each and every single one at cost. ///Marketing at its best - although if priced similarly to a regular M3, can't say I wouldn't be picking up one myself if I was in the market for a proper 4/5 seater.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        Good catch (??)...those rims look familiar lol

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        The 991.2 is just so sexy...
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        Good looking car, good looking wheels (even thought they look like they ripped the design from Porsche), and a good set of brakes to fill them (maybe .5 inches of clearance?)

        The diet was needed (although IMO, should be "stock") - and overall, am (sadly) sure people will buy each and every single one at cost. ///Marketing at its best - although if priced similarly to a regular M3, can't say I wouldn't be picking up one myself if I was in the market for a proper 4/5 seater.
        This car is exactly what it should have been to begin with.

        The turbo motors are letting them get lazy. They just change software, do some cosmetic changes, bam, new model, new money grab.
      1. 93siro's Avatar
        93siro -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by quattr0 Click here to enlarge
        Good catch (??)...those rims look familiar lol

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        BBS make those wheels for OEM's.
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This car is exactly what it should have been to begin with.

        The turbo motors are letting them get lazy. They just change software, do some cosmetic changes, bam, new model, new money grab.
        Yeah, it's getting to the point of ridiculousness already. I am sure you know, but back when they made the E46 M3 CSL, they made more changes than just some weight loss, a bunch of Alcantara and a tune... I am not sure where they think the real enthusiasts are/went, but perhaps they don't care because people will buy them any way they engineer it. Kind of sad to be honest. These cars used to be so special.

        Getting a bit off-topic here, but if you look at the used market for the E46 M3 (and even the E90), the prices are going nowhere but up. So yeah, BMW is being "smart" by offering a car like this without putting much effort in the engineering department - however, they aren't thinking of the long term. I can't see anyone wanting (and paying heavily for) a F8X M3 CS as much as a proper E46 CSL M3 given the same time period after its released. I've been wrong before, and time will tell - but it's just not "special" enough over a stocker IMO.

        Cheers.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        I am sure you know, but back when they made the E46 M3 CSL, they made more changes than just some weight loss, a bunch of Alcantara and a tune
        Of course I do. Plus the E92 M3 GTS was a 4.4 liter motor and not just the same thing with some new software.

        Why BMW can't figure out the appeal of a GT3 like model is infuriating but I just consider the true M brand dead and buried.
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Why BMW can't figure out the appeal of a GT3 like model is infuriating but I just consider the true M brand dead and buried.
        I'm with you 100%... It really is infuriating. When I was a youngin' the M3 was the epitome of what a sports sedan should be. Now? It's really nothing special. Fast? Sure. Pure? No.

        I would still say in stock form, the S54B32 (esp. in CSL spec) was the best NA engine ever made. Laughable throttle response -- the car put a smile on your face every time I drove it. Was it as fast as the new M? No. Did it create XXX ft-lbs of torque at the crank? No. But it was an amazing car, and I really hope we get to see another similar car again from BMW. Otherwise, as you say - they are dead to me.

        I do have the feeling that in a few years all this will shift back to the purist; there is a market there (even if people in that market don't even realize it)... I feel kinda sad/sorry for the people who haven't experienced what a "real" M3 is.

        They just don't build them like they used to (wow, I feel like an old person typing that). Click here to enlarge

        Cheers.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        I do have the feeling that in a few years all this will shift back to the purist; there is a market there (even if people in that market don't even realize it)... I feel kinda sad/sorry for the people who haven't experienced what a "real" M3 is.
        They haven't realize yet their M models don't need be their regular models on steroids. They can essentially do whatever they want but the cost cutting and ability to just change software killed everything.

        Other companies get it but BMW just doesn't give a $#@!.