• S65 V8 Rod Bearing Failure in Drew's Gintani Supercharged M3 - covered under Gintani warranty

      I have been reluctant to post about this earlier as I wanted to give Gintani ample time to look at the engine to try and determine what happened before I posted. We have an idea what caused it but currently the motor has not been broken down to do a full inspection. Given the current drama / speculation on the forums, I felt, along with Gintani, that we should post now and let everyone know that a failure did occur on my car, and then follow up later when we have more solid detailed information. As of now I know of no other Gintani car that has had a failure, but mine.

      The engine had been making a slight ticking noise on the passenger side wheel well for about a month before the failure, it sounded like an exhaust leak, but it is difficult to pinpoint noises on this engine. It appeared to have been a bad rod bearing that was causing the noise. Eventually the bearing failed, the rod seized onto the crank shaft, broke and one half came out the side of the block. That is all I currently know for certain, when Gintani tears the motor down they can investigate further to try and pinpoint exactly what it was, then post pictures, and a more accurate detailed analysis. It appears though that the Active Autowerke car that failed, is very similar in nature to this failure.

      A few things to point out -

      1. I've been running 9psi for over 10K miles on the motor, currently no other kit runs this much boost.
      2. When I dynoed the car, and removed the air filter, it hit 11psi, and you can see on the dyno a huge dip up top, which could be detonation.
      3. The seals on my 1st blower blew out while doing some spirited driving, eventually the car ran out of oil, this could have damaged the bearing.
      4. Other 2008 motors have been torn down and found to have wear on the rod bearings that could have eventually failed as mine did.

      The current status is that a long block is on it's way, Gintani is covering the cost of the motor and all labor, which is above and beyond what most companies would do. I am extremely thankful to them for doing so, they have always taken care of me. Right now my plans are that I am going to keep the kit, but most likely will lower the boost, hopefully I will be up and running soon, with more dyno's, video's, vbox data, etc.

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Rod Bearing Failure... started by DLSJ5 View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 3Fest Click here to enlarge
        Instant Ballers. Just add water (computer)
        For some reason you got banned too? I don't get it.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fstop7 Click here to enlarge
        Just read all 27 pages of that trash thread. It's the usual collection of kids playing Internet Baller with busted up 3rd or 4th hand E46 M3s or 330i's (which are great cars don't get me wrong) done up with fake M3 parts. It's basically the same thing that happened with the E36 M3 - Once they broke the $20k mark the kiddies started snapping them up and became instant online ballers.
        This is true but you forget most of them don't even have a car... they sit in OT and talk trash. There is nothing of merit on that forum any longer. Behind on info, ancient software, if it did not get positioned in google well due to its name it wouldn't exist. I just don't understand why there isn't a strong admin or leadership? It's just ok with the staff to bash anyone baselessly and propagate it as true?
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        930chas -
        Drew, really sorry to hear about this. Incredible service by Gintani in taking care of the situation. Hopefully you will be back up and running soon. We are fiending for some of your vids!
      1. NatAsp-M3's Avatar
        NatAsp-M3 -
        Fellas, there's well over 300 posts in that thread over "there." I aint got time for that. Seriously, over 300 posts pining over crap when you got the guy who owns the car telling you exactly everything he can. Amazing. Why not just wait until he tells you what went down? "don't know how to tune," HaHa. A car that ran those numbers so consistently was tuned with an electron microscope. Push 1 for English or 6 for dumbass, I don't care, but they should do themselves a favor and pull the video of drew running the Italia before crying crap tune. Cry "Max" tune if you want, but not "Crap" tune. A true enthusiast would have to be lying to himself if he wouldn't want to put down those numbers in this car.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NatAsp-M3 Click here to enlarge
        Seriously, over 300 posts pining over crap when you got the guy who owns the car telling you exactly everything he can. Amazing.
        Heh, can't really say it any better than that.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by NatAsp-M3 Click here to enlarge
        ush 1 for English or 6 for dumbass, I don't care, but they should do themselves a favor and pull the video of drew running the Italia before crying crap tune.
        You make a good point but remember videos of that kind are not allowed "over there." So not only do you have a group of fanboys using anything they can to attack no matter how off base it is they are the poorly educated masses to begin with which leads to... well, what you saw.

        The guy said he intends to be as open about this as possible and Gintani says they will show everything in the motor, what else do people want? My motor has been taken apart, no signs of wear from detonation. Let me guess, everyone forgets this inconvenient fact?
      1. BadBoostedBmwM3's Avatar
        BadBoostedBmwM3 -
        Wow, Im late to the game. Im sorry to hear about this drew. But, the good news Gintani is covering it.

        Sorry I have not had time to read 7 pages. Have they determined the failure?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BadBoostedBmwM3 Click here to enlarge
        Sorry I have not had time to read 7 pages. Have they determined the failure?
        All signs point to it being just like the title states.

        Looking forward to it being cracked open though and the full details, don't know where they are at with it.
      1. DLSJ5's Avatar
        DLSJ5 -
        Motor is at Gintani! Hopefully it will be done by this weekend or early next week.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
        Motor is at Gintani! Hopefully it will be done by this weekend or early next week.
        And what about disassembly of the old motor?
      1. DLSJ5's Avatar
        DLSJ5 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        And what about disassembly of the old motor?
        Good question, the old motor is out, but they have not tore it down yet, I am anxious for them to get that done, but right now I want the new motor in and my car back ASAP! However they need to tear the old one down soon and post up pictures / documentation as well, they assured me they are going to do that.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
        However they need to tear the old one down soon and post up pictures / documentation as well, they assured me they are going to do that.
        Yes, this is what everyone is interested in.

        Getting you back on the road is most important but also confirming the cause of failure is important to the community.
      1. DLSJ5's Avatar
        DLSJ5 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yes, this is what everyone is interested in.

        Getting you back on the road is most important but also confirming the cause of failure is important to the community.
        Agreed.