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    • Drag Race: BMW F80 M3 Competition vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs. Cadillac ATS-V

      This race comes after a race from earlier this month that also featured the BMW F80 M3 Competition Package and Giulia Quadrifoglio except with the W205 C63 AMG S taking the place of the ATS-V. Well, as the C63 was the slowest of the trio anyway the American contender in the segment makes for a good replacement.


      As a reminder, the ATS-V and its LF4 3.6 liter twin turbo V6 is rated at 464 horsepower and 445 lb-ft of torque. As crank output in this group does not tell the whole story the ATS-V puts down about 438 rear wheel horsepower and 431 lb-ft of torque at the wheels on a Dynojet stock.

      Unfortunately, that isn't enough. The ATS-V gets smoked exactly as it should. It is the heaviest car of the trio. It traps roughly 114 miles per hour in the 1/4 mile so ignore the Cadillac test ringers.

      What you see here is a real world representation and the ATS-V is just overmatched. The M3 and the Quadrifoglio again are close with the Alfa Romeo edging.

      What about the trap speeds? The French at Motorsport Magazine don't know what those are.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Drag Race: BMW F80 M3 Competition vs. Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio vs. Cadillac ATS-V started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 14 Comments
      1. Stevenh's Avatar
        Stevenh -
        Whatever happened with the ATS-V? I read some great initial reviews and tuning results, but diddly-squat after the initial hype. I'm sure they haven't sold well since I've literally seen 2 of them in my life. I feel the deals have to be right around the corner with lease returns coming up.
      1. Foagy's Avatar
        Foagy -
        They haven't sold well at all, dealers in my area have been offering upwards of $15K off MSRP to get rid some 2016 MY cars, and still can't move them. I think a lot of people were put off by the LF4 especially, as this car should have gotten the LT1.
      1. inlineS54B32's Avatar
        inlineS54B32 -
        Check out the start (0:08s) - it sounded like the M short shifted (at least I think it was the M)... I am guessing LC wasn't used? It looks like the M had a terrible start.

        I think the Quadrifoglio out-powers the M but am also thinking it could have been a closer race given a good start.
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        Car and Driver gives the ATS a lot of positive points, they loved most things about the car. And then they wondered what corporate retard thought that a 430hp Corvette LS was a bad idea.
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by inlineS54B32 Click here to enlarge
        Check out the start (0:08s) - it sounded like the M short shifted (at least I think it was the M)... I am guessing LC wasn't used? It looks like the M had a terrible start.

        I think the Quadrifoglio out-powers the M but am also thinking it could have been a closer race given a good start.
        You're absolutely right but the Alfa even got a slight jump.
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        If I'm not mistaken, I feel like that short shift was the Alfa. The Alfa is probably quite a bit louder than the other 2.
      1. mynameisplayer's Avatar
        mynameisplayer -
        So where do the 50 extra horses in the Alfa go? Not far....
      1. Sticky2's Avatar
        Sticky2 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mynameisplayer Click here to enlarge
        So where do the 50 extra horses in the Alfa go? Not far....
        Is it 50 extra horses?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Stevenh Click here to enlarge
        Whatever happened with the ATS-V? I read some great initial reviews and tuning results, but diddly-squat after the initial hype. I'm sure they haven't sold well since I've literally seen 2 of them in my life. I feel the deals have to be right around the corner with lease returns coming up.
        The car was not a complete package.

        Ok, the chassis is great and the motor is decent but you can not get away with that 90's gauge cluster in this environment.

        It's also the heaviest in its class short of the C63. That isn't good.

        A good effort but hardly the best in class.
      1. Aaron's Avatar
        Aaron -
        The motor sucks, that's its biggest drawback. It needs an LS. Lighter, more reliable, sounds better, better torque curve, an endless aftermarket, and it'll still go 400,000 miles.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Aaron Click here to enlarge
        The motor sucks, that's its biggest drawback. It needs an LS. Lighter, more reliable, sounds better, better torque curve, an endless aftermarket, and it'll still go 400,000 miles.
        The LT series would be great but they are doing a turbo six cylinder to play with everyone else doing the same thing.

        Actually, it would have been cool if they did something different and use the LT1. Shaved weight down to 3500 rpm and had a V8 M3 with more displacement.

        Oh well. They should probably fix that interior first though.
      1. leveraged sellout's Avatar
        leveraged sellout -
        ATS has a terrible interior and the engine is probably the weakest out of the group in its class. And it's a Cadillac. That's why it's not selling.

        Wow, are there really still people here who think the BMW factory-quoted power numbers are what it's making? Lol. When the idiots who run the Road & Track Facebook page posted this, the entire post was breathless wonderment at how the "less powerful" M3 basically kept up. The state of auto journalism in many places is quite sad.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by leveraged sellout Click here to enlarge
        Lol. When the idiots who run the Road & Track Facebook page posted this, the entire post was breathless wonderment at how the "less powerful" M3 basically kept up. The state of auto journalism in many places is quite sad.
        I've called so many people out on this but it's a lost cause. They are just stupid people.

        I called MotorTrend on it and the guy acted like he knew yet in his video says the M3 is way less powerful... idiots.
      1. 0-60Motorsports's Avatar
        0-60Motorsports -
        Love that ALFA!