• Pictures of the state M5junky's E60 M5 was in when removed from ASR Engineering for failure to compete custom twin turbo setup

      Steve (M5junky) sent us these pictures with permission to post them. These pictures reveal the state his E60 M5 was in after having spent about 2 years at ASR Engineering. The car was sent there for a twin turbo built motor setup as most of you know and nothing was done. Well, nothing other than stripping the car the car down and leaving it a huge mess. The transmission was pulled and looks to be left stock. The motor was pulled and not built as agreed. The engine bay, well, you can see for yourself.

      There is much more to all of this and the legal wheels are turning. We do not want to get in the way or step on anyone's toes so we will simply let this play out. What people should be aware of is that tens of thousands were spent by M5junky and M5Ranger to receive their twin turbo setups on the E60 M5 only to be jerked around with nothing being completed and the money being pocketed. No refund has been issued as of this point and we will follow progress on the story as it develops.























      This article was originally published in forum thread: There cars are out of there!!!! - M5's removed from ASR started by Lock n Load View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        Stop modding? Oh no! Obviously I must deal with the proper people.
        I still love the E60 M5, as I have another one now but just this particular white M5 that's been defiled is the one I've come to hate. Mainly from an anger point of view.
        Like I said, there are hot plans cooking for the GT3RS. The Guard LSD and R&P are awesome. Hugh difference on the track.

        Ranger
        I better hurry up and get porscheboost.com up.
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        Stop modding? Oh no! Obviously I must deal with the proper people.
        I still love the E60 M5, as I have another one now but just this particular white M5 that's been defiled is the one I've come to hate. Mainly from an anger point of view.
        Like I said, there are hot plans cooking for the GT3RS. The Guard LSD and R&P are awesome. Hugh difference on the track.

        Ranger
        LSD always makes a difference. Proper Alignment does as well. I used to set them up for a living....my former boss and I butted heads a lot but man do I miss workin there..
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Pics of Ranger's M5's + GT3 moved here: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...)-E60-M5-s-GT3
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Hey guys, small update. Lock N Load (GT3 Ranger) sent me a PM stating he no longer will participate here because oddjob was allowed to post what he was. I thanked him for his participation but stated I would not remove the thread or oddjob's statements and I do not believe that is the right thing to do.

        Now, the freedom of our users is not just for certain members. It is for all members. Even if one disagrees with another, if it is done constructively expressing one's opinion we will definitely allow it. Especially considering oddjob has been a member here from the beginning and has built up tremendous positive reputation inside this community. I know Ranger is new around here but I think our openness may have caught him off guard. I do not agree myself with what oddjob stated but I will defend his right to say it. If that means losing a new member because a contributing member expressed themselves, so be it.

        I have had Ranger's back since before this mess all started (as he knows) and will continue to do so. I will not delete this thread however as not only does that play into Abid's hands it removes pictures depicting what took place which may lead to the unfortunate circumstance repeating itself. I simply will not do that and I simply will not punish long standing contributing members for providing their point of view even if it is contrary to the majority. We have a community evaluation system here and to participate one must have thick skin. So I thank Ranger for his participation and I hope he gets this issue with ASR resolved to his satisfaction. If he changes his mind, we will still be here and whatever help he might need I will be more than happy to assist him in any way I can.
      1. Lock n Load's Avatar
        Lock n Load -
        Only here for a proper correction.
        1. I NEVER asked you/the forum to delete ANYTHING.
        2. My comments referred to giving cover and comfort to a member spewing flatout false statements.
        3. If oddjob is not who I think he is, then he doesn't know me from crap. Never talked or for that matter never met.
        4. Yet he knows me so well and so personally?
        5. So he comes on here makes absolutely inflammatory LIES and it's "his opinion"?
        6. I challenge him to produce facts (to stupid to know one) and PROOF of his LIES. Please check with the DPR ( dept. of professional regulation) in Florida! That or STFU.
        7. oddjob comes on here under instructions to be a mouthpiece for ASR.
        8. So if coming on here and spewing blatant lies is given the comfort and cover of, "it's his opinion", well then it's no place to be.
        9. Regarding oddjob's lies about seeing "all the components" then I must assert he is also calling Steve a liar. Oh and btw he's also calling John from cesmotorsport a liar.
        10. I should come on here and make some inflammatory false comments about oddjob and say they are my opinion but I have more honor and class than that.
        11. Again I NEVER ask to have anything deleted/removed or whatever. Are we clear?
        12. oddjob YOU ARE A LIAR and you don't know $h!t.
        I don't care who long oddjob has been here. The truth trumps a liar, at least it should imo. This isn't an issue of disagreement. This is as black and white as it can get. The truth vs. lies
        This forum apparently has a problem with the truth.
        EVERYTHING STEVE AND I HAVE STATED IS THE TRUTH. Believe what you want.

        Enough but I have to be crystal clear here.

        Ranger
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        1. I NEVER asked you/the forum to delete ANYTHING.
        With all due respect, you asked for the thread to be deleted.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        2. My comments referred to giving cover and comfort to a member spewing flatout false statements.
        You are more than free to address them and I believe you two can resolve any discrepancies as mature adults with a mutual respect for each other as enthusiasts.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        4. Yet he knows me so well and so personally?
        5. So he comes on here makes absolutely inflammatory LIES and it's "his opinion"?
        6. I challenge him to produce facts (to stupid to know one) and PROOF of his LIES. Please check with the DPR ( dept. of professional regulation) in Florida! That or STFU.
        7. oddjob comes on here under instructions to be a mouthpiece for ASR.
        This is all very fair and I believe oddjob should have to support his statements or they should be dismissed as false.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        11. Again I NEVER ask to have anything deleted/removed or whatever. Are we clear?
        Ranger... uh, check your PM history for verification I guess? I don't want to post your pm's or anything like that to prove I am telling the truth but even as early as post 3 you asked for the thread to be deleted: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...7027#post87027 and then rescinded.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Lock n Load Click here to enlarge
        12. oddjob YOU ARE A LIAR and you don't know $h!t.
        I don't care who long oddjob has been here. The truth trumps a liar, at least it should imo. This isn't an issue of disagreement. This is as black and white as it can get. The truth vs. lies
        This forum apparently has a problem with the truth.
        EVERYTHING STEVE AND I HAVE STATED IS THE TRUTH. Believe what you want.
        I believe you and Steve have been upstanding and honest and this situation is tense/hard on everyone but we are on the same team here. I think you guys can come to an understanding, I really do. People are not allowed to baselessly flame others, that isn't what we are about. We are about letting users speak their minds though and once again, you and Steve have our support so I do not think this minor conflict serves a constructive purpose to the overall goal here. Let's not fight amongst ourselves, we know who the enemy really is.
      1. M5 Junky's Avatar
        M5 Junky -
        If I may interject here.... I completely understand that everyone has a right to post to a thread, or belong to a forum of their choice etc etc etc.... BUT with that said - everyone was giving Gustav HELL on the M5Board for being careless, and letting people post who probably should have been deleted right out of the gate, or later on, because due diligence was not done on that person/tuner. Granted oddjob is not a tuner, nor owns a business that is being advertised on any board (at least we are to believe).. Gentleman if we are going to hang others for things we are not following through on, then what gives us the right to blast other forums for not following through on commitments to excellence, or fairness. Its obvious and extremely apprarent that Ranger and I have come to this thread with some pretty hardcore evidence, and factual evidence of ASR's blatant disrepect for the tuning world. I have not seen one lick of factual evidence from OddJob on anything - not one. All he does is come on here and slanders Ranger, and says things on a whim - he doesn't even know Ranger! "Well I saw this - I saw that" Well.... Put some F'ing pictures up here NOW! Not tomorrow or next week or in a month or in a year. "Put up or SHUT UP".. Sticky if I am out of place here let me know, but in my eyes I don't care if OddJob cuts your grass, or lives next door, or is a drinking buddy of anyone on this board. It's in black and white - he has started a smear campaign against mostly Ranger, and frankly I don't like it and it needs to stop. Ranger and I both agreed to come out and talk on this board about our situations at ASR. We didn't sign up for some guy (a one off guy), to sit here and badger us personally, and tell us were full of cr@p. I totally agree with Ranger I'm happy to say, but yes this guy needs to sit in a timeout. How can we condone on this board a guy who sounds as though he is promoting ASR? A company that has literally screwed not only Ranger and I, but other guys who have fallen in the same hole??? I don't get it. You know I was on the M5Board the other day, and I noticed Gustav stepped in on a thread immediately, and expressed concern about a guy who posted "ASR exhaust appreciation" Gustav immediately posted the link to the twin turbo thread. Thank god we all found out the guy bought the exhaust through a 3rd party. The thread poster - chimed in and was greatful to find out about what may have happened if he bought direct. Short thread - need I say more?? Maybe Gustav is policing the M5Board better now? I would suspect any more supporters will be silenced as quickly as possible on that board - same should be here too. Remember we spoke of being a more responsible board, and making sure we all tried to avoid bad tuners, and to assist each other in steering everyone in the proper path... Thanks
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        BUT with that said - everyone was giving Gustav HELL on the M5Board for being careless, and letting people post who probably should have been deleted right out of the gate, or later on, because due diligence was not done on that person/tuner.
        Very true and Gustav deserves all that criticism and then some for failure to act.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        Granted oddjob is not a tuner, nor owns a business that is being advertised on any board (at least we are to believe).. Gentleman if we are going to hang others for things we are not following through on, then what gives us the right to blast other forums for not following through on commitments to excellence, or fairness. Its obvious and extremely apprarent that Ranger and I have come to this thread with some pretty hardcore evidence, and factual evidence of ASR's blatant disrepect for the tuning world.
        The difference here is due diligence on obbjob has been done as his interaction in the community shows. He has built up a positive reputation, not by accident. It is due to over a year of positive participation and if he was a guy who just treated people poorly and constantly created problems he would not have the reputation that he does in the community.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        ts obvious and extremely apprarent that Ranger and I have come to this thread with some pretty hardcore evidence, and factual evidence of ASR's blatant disrepect for the tuning world. I have not seen one lick of factual evidence from OddJob on anything - not one. All he does is come on here and slanders Ranger, and says things on a whim - he doesn't even know Ranger! "Well I saw this - I saw that" Well.... Put some F'ing pictures up here NOW!
        I agree with you 100%, oddjob has provided no evidence. You guys have, and have struggled with this for some time so I think you are forgetting basically everyone here is on your side including myself. I want to see justice served for what was done and this has affected me a great deal as I have reached out to Ranger from the very beginning as I could not believe what was taking place.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        Sticky if I am out of place here let me know, but in my eyes I don't care if OddJob cuts your grass, or lives next door, or is a drinking buddy of anyone on this board. It's in black and white - he has started a smear campaign against mostly Ranger, and frankly I don't like it and it needs to stop.
        I think oddjob is the kind of person who can work it out with Ranger and I think Ranger is the same kind of person. I think we need to calm down a bit in general. Really, nobody bought into what oddjob said so making such an issue of it only brings further attention to it.

        You are not out of place whatsoever, I'm glad you are telling me what is on your mind so we can address it. I fully respect you and Juan for it.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        Ranger and I both agreed to come out and talk on this board about our situations at ASR. We didn't sign up for some guy (a one off guy), to sit here and badger us personally, and tell us were full of cr@p. I totally agree with Ranger I'm happy to say, but yes this guy needs to sit in a timeout.
        If the community disagrees with what a user is doing and they receive negative reputation they are put in timeout automatically. Thus far, no one has deemed it necessary to limit oddjob or put him in timeout. You guys have to remember you are fairly new here as well and contributing members that have built up a good rapport have earned the right to say what is on their mind.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        You know I was on the M5Board the other day, and I noticed Gustav stepped in on a thread immediately, and expressed concern about a guy who posted "ASR exhaust appreciation" Gustav immediately posted the link to the twin turbo thread. Thank god we all found out the guy bought the exhaust through a 3rd party. The thread poster - chimed in and was greatful to find out about what may have happened if he bought direct. Short thread - need I say more?? Maybe Gustav is policing the M5Board better now?
        I absolutely think Gustav is policing M5board better thanks to you and Ranger in particular not sitting quiet about this. Really, it was your photographic evidence that opened a lot of eyes.

        So regarding ASR, Gutav is doing a much better job even though many would say it is too little, too late. I think to fully remedy the situation it would take returning the money received from ASR to those hurt by ASR and making an announcement about it. This may be a bit extreme to some but I would feel too guilty holding on to months years of accrued money from a company I know my members were hurt by. It isn't much money obviously but it would be a nice symbolic gesture. Hey, we all make mistakes, but the right thing can be done. This goes for even ASR. I am just happy to see Gustav has noticed and is putting an effort in now, that is something at least.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M5 Junky Click here to enlarge
        Remember we spoke of being a more responsible board, and making sure we all tried to avoid bad tuners, and to assist each other in steering everyone in the proper path... Thanks
        Very true, so how do you suggest we go about that? I am definitely listening and I do not see why if we maintain such a civil, open, and respectful tone we can not all resolve this.

        I think if oddjob can not support his statements, he should apologize. If he can then I urge him to or else people should realize they hold no merit. I have spent enough time with him though to realize he is not a bad a person and not trying to harm Ranger. He isn't vindictive, I just think he has ties to ASR and was trying to share his perspective but it clearly did not go about it the right way as this is a sensitive issue.
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        my 2 cents... Everyone agrees ASR is a shady company and nobody will do business with them. 99% of us believe you guys (M5Junky and Ranger) are in the right. We all have heard nightmare stories about ASR. And im sorry this has happened to both of you, I wish you both the best in court.

        I think the personal statements made by oddjob are out of line, leaving those out... I think he is just trying to express what he has seen. There are many sides to a story, you dont know what he has seen .

        and Sticky is just trying to run a forum that isnt censored (which has its ups and downs sometimes)... because there are many sides to a story, how can you know which side to censor? sometimes the wrong one is censored, or thread is cut off before everyone gets a fair say...which happens on many forums. Im sure many of us have experienced this. So he is just trying to be objective from my view and let as much info be shown as possible. It sucks that in that process people can get hurt.

        Again, wish you 2 the best.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        my 2 cents... Everyone agrees ASR is a shady company and nobody will do business with them. 99% of us believe you guys (M5Junky and Ranger) are in the right. We all have heard nightmare stories about ASR. And im sorry this has happened to both of you, I wish you both the best in court.
        Well said!
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        I don't know why Ranger is so upset. It is fairly obvious he is in the right and oddjob is in the wrong. oddjob, blowjob, how cares? And as far as that spinless POS Gustav, he banned me from M5Board for bashing (the truth - not one thing was fabricated) Bill Noballs and Discovery. Gustav has a history of protecting shady vendors, who are the flavor of the month. But, it is good to hear has has actually gotten alittle better. I also was one of the first on M5Board to laugh at ASR and their BS method of nitros for BMWs.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        And as far as that spinless POS Gustav, he banned me from M5Board for bashing (the truth - not one thing was fabricated) Bill Noballs and Discovery. Gustav has a history of protecting shady vendors, who are the flavor of the month. But, it is good to hear has has actually gotten alittle better.
        Exactly, it is a repeat pattern unfortunately. I got trouble as well for questioning ASR and actually asking for a pump gas dyno of their turbo upgrade.

        If he's improving because of the pressure from all of this, much better for the users.
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        Thanks for all the input everyone is putting, I am really beginning to get all the angles.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        oddjob, blowjob
        Be polite please, he's a respectful person even if he's wrong
      1. Stahlgrau's Avatar
        Stahlgrau -
        This place is never wanting for drama.


        Hope you guys get it all worked out. Sorry to hear of your troubles. I know how it is.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by HeroSina Click here to enlarge
        Be polite please, he's a respectful person even if he's wrong
        You are correct, sorry about that.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by BigM62 Click here to enlarge
        You are correct, sorry about that.
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      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        hey lay off oddjob! hes been pretty sick for a few days now so take it easy on him please. hes really a good person and friend.

        congrats on getting yours cars back btw I've seen them just sitting their for sometime now. Your probably going to hate me for this, but I recently picked up my car from abid after getting my axles upgraded, sway bars, and BBK installed...what a difference a good set of sway bars and brakes can do to a car whoa!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        If you know how Abid treated these guys and all the issues why give him business?
      1. lamia2super's Avatar
        lamia2super -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        If you know how Abid treated these guys and all the issues why give him business?
        well because every other shop i know in Miami is trash and i dont trust any other mechanic with my car. I really like the way abids mechanic works