• ESS tuning threatens BimmerBoost with legal action over revealing issues with the supercharged RDsport stroker motor


      Asbjorn from ESS sent some very nasty letters threatening Bimmerboost with legal action over revealing issues with the supercharged stroker motor. Frankly, we do not understand why Asbjorn is doing this as it is completely beneath any professional company and far more could be accomplished by taking the higher road as one would expect the head of a large BMW aftermarket company to do. BimmerBoost does not condone these actions and finds them offensive and unprofessional. No company should say they would take pleasure in hurting anyone.

      Here is what Asbjorn@ESS sent:

      12-28-10:

      The response stated that our sources have given us different information than what has been posted around the web on the subject. Asbjorn would send another e-mail shortly after:

      This is simply deplorable. Stating one would take pleasure in hurting a person and their family is not how professional companies operate in the United States. They may not have the First Amendment in Norway, but we sure have it in the United States, and BimmerBoost will not be bullied or intimidated by ESS or anyone else for that matter.

      We realize that AJ likely sent these e-mails in the heat of the moment which is why the response was one that dismissed the idle threats:

      Asbjorn once again responded with threats:

      After this nothing was received for a few days until today, January 2, 2011 when Asbjorn sent another e-mail. His tone was completely different in this one and clearly he realized he made a mistake and attempted to play nice asking to bury the hatchet and move on. The tone expressed here by AJ is one much more in line with what one would expect. Addtionally, we commend Asbjorn on wanting to mend fences and do what is best for ESS and BimmerBoost. We would like nothing more than to do so and thank Asbjorn on the compliments paid to Bimmerboost:

      The points raised were addressed and here is part of the response:

      We were more than willing to mend any fences and take the higher ground rather than lob threats and insults but Asbjorn@ESS reverted back to his previous form after I thought we came to an understanding:

      Now, we simply have had enough of these threats and insults. This is beneath ESS and BimmerBoost is not going to be pushed around into doing what ESS wants us to do. They can threaten, yell, scream, or even try to play nice for an e-mail or two.

      We have nothing against ESS. We honestly do wish ESS the best and will continue to give the products fair and equal coverage on the front page and throughout the forum. We intend to do what is best for BMW enthusiasts.

      BimmerBoost would like to be the first to extend its hand in friendship despite the threats and insults. We feel this type of behavior from ESS does not do BimmerBoost or ESS any good. We think it needs to stop and we can all be far more productive using this energy to support one another instead of threatening to bring someone else down and taking pleasure in it. We should help one another and start the year off positively, certainly not like this.

      In an effort to make sure we report the most accurate information possible, we will take Robert Collins up on his invitation to take a look at the stroker and the parts as well as his $100 incentive in doing so. We will take pictures and report back exactly what we learn. That is as fair as we can possibly be and it is being done on their terms. It is as simple as that and we wish all parties involved in this the best. It is high time for this all to come to an end and if we have to be the ones to set the precedent on cordial communication and interaction, so be it.
      This article was originally published in forum thread: ESS tuning threatens BimmerBoost with legal action over revealing issues with the SC stroker started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Wait, I just went through the front page, thats where I got those numbers from, I literally went through 16 pages looking for stuff that you specifically wrote, since you are the one that is specifically writing the majority of the negative articles.
        We recently launched a new site, BenzBoost.com, and the front page was split and is still not completely updated. You will notice a gap of a few months after August until November. That information is all still being put up but all the front page articles are ones promoted from the forum itself. So an internal search will reveal it all, hence the links.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Im reading about it, and on some other forums as well. Very nefarious characters. Lots of heated stuff between Gintani and Powerchip too looks like
        Yes, very much so, and I wanted to illustrate we certainly do not focus on one company or one issue.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Wait, but didnt you just say you are only basing your information off of what someone told you? I dont understand how that is completely responsible?
        Much reporting is based on what a person states or eye witness accounts. No different here except that I am even willing to follow up on it. How much more can one ask?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Then again, he didnt exactly say he was going to cut them into pieces, looks like he threatened to take them to court because he thinks your parents are financing you.
        Heh, well the interpretation of taking pleasure in taking someone down I'll leave up to you. Cut into pieces? Maybe not too far off from his tone depending on if you interpret that literally. He is free to think whatever he wants but the fact he stooped so low as to go down that route is my point of contention and reflects poorly on the company.
      1. carguy411's Avatar
        carguy411 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Much reporting is based on what a person states or eye witness accounts. No different here except that I am even willing to follow up on it. How much more can one ask?
        Very true, but its also how we end up with rag like Fox news. You dont want to be known as the Fox news of BMW articles im sure.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Very true, but its also how we end up with rag like Fox news. You dont want to be known as the Fox news of BMW articles im sure.
        nothing wrong with fox news.. lets not go there Click here to enlarge
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        MHP LLC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        This is exactly how I feel and even though I do believe it was sent in the heat of the moment an adult should think it through. It is simply a classless move and threatening someone's family and taking pleasure in said threat is certainly crossing the line.
        Agreed, hopefully he will learn from it, cease, and move on.

        Exactly, I have no problem with handling this the right way which is simply to do as was requested and check it out in person. I hold no grudge and will put up exactly what I see. Sounds fair and reasonable to me?
        Very fair and reasonable.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Very true, but its also how we end up with rag like Fox news. You dont want to be known as the Fox news of BMW articles im sure.
        As said, nothing wrong with Fox News lol but I get y our point. Which is why I am going out of my way to set aside the time to settle the issue properly with documentation.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
        Agreed, hopefully he will learn from it, cease, and move on.
        Has no one learned anything from Wayne Besanko?
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Has no one learned anything from Wayne Besanko?
        Apparently not and they won't.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        Apparently not and they won't.
        Do you have a spare gearbox?
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Do you have a spare gearbox?
        Why, are you paying a visit to AutoTalent sometime soon?
      1. CookieCrisp's Avatar
        CookieCrisp -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Do you have a spare gearbox?
        I'm down to take a trip to the junkyard...
        You thinking what I'm thinking?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by CookieCrisp Click here to enlarge
        I'm down to take a trip to the junkyard...
        You thinking what I'm thinking?
        Click here to enlarge

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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        Why, are you paying a visit to AutoTalent sometime soon?
        If the $100 challenge and invitation was genuine, I sure am.
      1. carguy411's Avatar
        carguy411 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DBFIU Click here to enlarge
        With a join date of January 2011, I am pretty sure you are not 'just lurking'. More like 'just trolling'. After all this thread is your first post and you happen to accuse Stickys parents of funding the site, someone get the spray.
        Sorry I didnt join on a date that was more appropriate for you? Dont really know what to tell ya about this one. As far as parents funding the site thats what the letter was insinuating, I restated it, and now you want to push me under the bus? Why are you making this an "us vs. them" thing? Sticky just got done telling me that he is unbiased, and he seems to run stuff around here, so I can only assume that he expects this forum to be unbiased as well. So why do you feel that my join date should dictate my status on this board? Everyone has to join sometime, I just chose to refrain from joining till now because I am obviously not up to speed with a lot of this stuff. Im more a casual viewer, and I joined because I had a couple questions. No need to get spray? (Not sure what that is exactly but doesnt sound too awesome)
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Sorry I didnt join on a date that was more appropriate for you? Dont really know what to tell ya about this one. As far as parents funding the site thats what the letter was insinuating, I restated it, and now you want to push me under the bus? Why are you making this an "us vs. them" thing? Sticky just got done telling me that he is unbiased, and he seems to run stuff around here, so I can only assume that he expects this forum to be unbiased as well. So why do you feel that my join date should dictate my status on this board? Everyone has to join sometime, I just chose to refrain from joining till now because I am obviously not up to speed with a lot of this stuff. Im more a casual viewer, and I joined because I had a couple questions. No need to get spray? (Not sure what that is exactly but doesnt sound too awesome)
        Your join date doesn't matter regarding being allowed to interact or anything like that but what he is implying is that you have more knowledge of what is on the board or the issues than you let on which means you have browsed this board a little bit as well as other BMW boards.

        Casual is a good way to put it I think.
      1. carguy411's Avatar
        carguy411 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Your join date doesn't matter regarding being allowed to interact or anything like that but what he is implying is that you have more knowledge of what is on the board or the issues than you let on which means you have browsed this board a little bit as well as other BMW boards.

        Casual is a good way to put it I think.
        Nah, I just spent a little time trying to get a handle on the back-story. Its all pretty confusing still, and honestly I appreciate the compliment that I exude more knowledge about this issue than Im actually aware of Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Nah, I just spent a little time trying to get a handle on the back-story. Its all pretty confusing still, and honestly I appreciate the compliment that I exude more knowledge about this issue than Im actually aware of Click here to enlarge
        Heh, well sometimes we get people who join just to make a post in a single thread so the troll label is accurate. The jury is still out on this one... Click here to enlarge
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Heh, well sometimes we get people who join just to make a post in a single thread so the troll label is accurate. The jury is still out on this one... Click here to enlarge
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      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Joseph i never saw you , i never talked to you in person but i respect you very much. As someone who respect you i should say these threads are harmful for you forum . know you will say the truth must be said but the thing is everyone knows the truth,everyone knows who is the douchebag.
        and Asbjorn can go to hell with his nasty letter.
        hope this shame (ESS vs others war) will be gone
      1. Lock n Load's Avatar
        Lock n Load -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carguy411 Click here to enlarge
        Very true, but its also how we end up with rag like Fox news. You dont want to be known as the Fox news of BMW articles im sure.
        Hey carguy very revealing. From your comment buddy I have you pegged.

        The statements made by Asbjorn were unbelieveable. A business would go to that level hits a low. In this case if he thought he had an issue then take it up one on one.
        Sticky if you have the truth and facts then do not stand down.

        Ranger
      1. fstop7's Avatar
        fstop7 -
        I'm not sure if "retarded bull$#@!" is an accepted legal term.