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    • Misfires continue to be an issue for the Vishnu Procede even after the V5 update

      This video was sent to us anonymously. The reason for that is Shiv@Vishnu had seen the video and told the owner not to post it and the owner did not for fear of being punished, lack of support, etc. We happened to get this video which shows a V5 automatic misfiring even after the voluntary harness update and several times of cleared adaptations.

      Notice the boost on the fuel gauge which drops to around or below the stock boost level yet the car still misfires. Misfires were also reported at the recent Atco rental by V5 users and other Procede users on BimmerBoost have mentioned issues with misfires as well. This issue is being brought to your attention as tremendous effort has been expended to keep it quiet on other sites. Come to your own conclusion and we hope Vishnu can resolve it.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: Misfires continue to be an issue for the Vishnu Procede even after the V5 update started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        People, you are missing the point. The issue at hand is that the V5 is still having problems with misfires. Forget about the rest...
        That is certainly how it was presented...
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dzenno Click here to enlarge
        You didn't get what I was saying..you claimed themyst's comments arent truthful but you take the vid he did and make it your front page story...awesome!
        No I was still definately getting them....that's why I was so puzzled when it was still happening...once it got colder out they were more spread out....now that its below 30 over here they are few and far between....but then again I'm barely driving my car now
      1. WOPALX's Avatar
        WOPALX -
        Sticky based on your comments below then it is hypocritical for you not to alter the first page of the thread where you indicate he has been threatened by Shiv if he posted the video.

        Unless you have evidence of that occurring it's just false and misleading conduct.

        It's nice to have a forum that does not hold back but if that forum allows false information to be posted as newsworthy then it looses much of it's credibility.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        We do not know exactly what he was told as he won't say. All he wants is for this to disappear.

        As I stated, does he have evidence that he was not told to not put this up? His actions correlate with what I am saying, not with what he is saying. Why else is he scared?

        There is no embellishing of any kind, he has stated several times he feels if this stays up a bridge will be burnt. Obviously something would have had to be said for him to feel that way, right? Or did he just make it up out of the blue? Why would he just fear Shiv for no reason then? Something was said and I believe my source to be accurate based on his demands and responses.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        No I was still definately getting them....that's why I was so puzzled when it was still happening...once it got colder out they were more spread out....now that its below 30 over here they are few and far between....but then again I'm barely driving my car now
        Did you ask what was causing it or mention it at all to Vishnu?

        Interesting that as it got colder you got less misfires.
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GT3 Click here to enlarge
        You just sound like a whiny little $#@!.. OMFG.. hahahahahahahahahahaha....

        Dont $#@!ing post a vid on YouTube as "public" and don't send it to random people next time. WTF where you thinking? No one even really knew it was your car until you said something, and others are experiencing the same problems shown and the vid and as you said, "it was discussed on E90post", so what tha $#@! are you crying about? Its not a new issue and it was already public, $#@!! 1 page of your rant was enough and your new sig is super Click here to enlarge
        And you're the stereotypical dumb troll who doesn't read the thread or see who posted the YouTube video. If you notice, I didn't post the video on YouTube. Sticky did without my permission. Besides, if I posted it, don't you think I could easily delete it? Retard. I'm happy to see that my sig made you smile today. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
        And you're the stereotypical dumb troll who doesn't read the thread or see who posted the YouTube video. If you notice, I didn't post the video on YouTube. Sticky did without my permission. I'm happy to see that my sig made you smile today. Click here to enlarge
        There is more than one video and probably up on more than one video site as well now.

        And his point is correct:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GT3 Click here to enlarge
        don't send it to random people next time. WTF where you thinking? No one even really knew it was your car until you said something, and others are experiencing the same problems shown and the vid and as you said, "it was discussed on E90post", so what tha $#@! are you crying about? Its not a new issue and it was already public
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        No one said you got any money from Vishnu. I think what you are doing is making sure Shiv won't stop supporting you. Would Shiv threaten you with something like that? If he did, I think you should come out and say it. Explain to us all why you are so intent on believing this will burn a bridge? Shiv saw this video, right? You two must have discussed it? What did he tell you? Let's see how Vishnu customer service handles issues that don't portray them as positive. My feeling is he tried to force you into not revealing this video.

        I don't know who sent it to me but since the vid was on youtube anyone could have.



        What tangent? I'm right on point Click here to enlarge The video was not intended for my viewing? Well, some of the most important videos we get that reveal issues are ones that were not necessarily intended to get into a specific persons hands. That does not change that the video is relevant and something that needs to be brought to the attention of those in the N54 community as well as the BMW performance community.

        Yes, I know bimmerpost has more users, that's great. I realize we have a long way to go but quantity does not equal quality and I'm very happy with where we have gotten. It's easy for you to use the work of someone else with a 5 year head start to try to put where we have gotten so far down. I along with many others already feel this site has surpassed bimmerpost in quality information for the user and how it is centered around the benefit of the user. I'm sorry it doesn't meet your standards but I will continue to work toward improving it until it can meet them. I'm sure you could do better as well.



        You certainly have pushed drama to the forefront with how you have handled it. I hope more people notice and that pushes Vishnu to fix it, for your benefit, and the benefit of the entire community.

        Uh, what? The video's author is BimmerBoost. You must think the average user on this site is stupid. Carry on National Enquirer!

        edit - you know how I know this video is from LostMarine?

        The username when you double-click the video box says enough Click here to enlarge
      1. themyst's Avatar
        themyst -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There is more than one video and probably up on more than one video site as well now.

        And his point is correct:
        I sent the video to Shiv, Terry@BMS and LostMarine for the umpteenth time. With one user (Terry) having better things to do, one user (Shiv) obviously out of the equation, and LostMarine asking me at least twice this week if he could post on this site, gee, I think we have a winner! There is no "anonymous" person who sent this video. Stop $#@!ting yourself and the users of this forum. You insult our intelligence.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Did you ask what was causing it or mention it at all to Vishnu?

        Interesting that as it got colder you got less misfires.
        yea...shiv told me to try the harness update but i havent as of yet since i know ill be switching tunes when Matt puts my new fuel system in anyway Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by themyst Click here to enlarge
        Uh, what? The video's author is BimmerBoost. You must think the average user on this site is stupid. Carry on National Enquirer!
        No, actually, you aren't the brightest bulb as there is more than one video. Duh, the one I uploaded is from Bimmerboost. Then there is another on there. If you look at the dates anyone could have taken the first vid and passed it around. Also, if you e-mailed this video to people who is to say it wasn't forwarded to more than one source? What is hard for you to grasp? This is your doing, not that of anyone else.
      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        im not taking sides but i dont see this video as a big deal....i mean i would have filmed it and put it both on e90post(if they let me) and bimmerboost....hell, everyone knows i like feedback on everything
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ultimateendz Click here to enlarge
        im not taking sides but i dont see this video as a big deal....i mean i would have filmed it and put it both on e90post(if they let me) and bimmerboost....hell, everyone knows i like feedback on everything
        Exactly, it isn't a big deal at all. That makes me think he was coerced as he seems pretty adamant this is going to "burn a bridge" when everyone else thinks it is nothing to get so worked up over.
      1. caradd's Avatar
        caradd -
        I find this Soap Opera, FASCINATING Click here to enlarge
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Exactly, it isn't a big deal at all. That makes me think he was coerced as he seems pretty adamant this is going to "burn a bridge" when everyone else thinks it is nothing to get so worked up over.
        I can't speak for themyst but I've heard many horror stories from customers who were harassed with emails, txts, and phone calls after publicly posting unpleasantness with something or asking for help. Vishnu's policy used to be if you posted anything asking for help with an install problem or issue your return guarantee was void. It's very much a Stalinist mentality over there IMHO so I can see why someone would not want a video like this leaking out with their name associated with it.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        I can't speak for themyst but I've heard many horror stories from customers who were harassed with emails, txts, and phone calls after publicly posting unpleasantness with something or asking for help. Vishnu's policy used to be if you posted anything asking for help with an install problem or issue your return guarantee was void. It's very much a Stalinist mentality over there IMHO so I can see why someone would not want a video like this leaking out with their name associated with it.
        I heard things like this, I just didn't think it was that bad but the way he is reacting is making think the stories are very true. Kind of ridiculous to go to these lengths... themyst could get further with Vishnu by telling everyone what was said about the video, exposing it, flipping the script.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Just my opinion but it's one thing if you are alpha or beta testing and have an isolated issue you need help with. But if you're using public software and having an issue I don't see what the big deal is. Sometimes posting videos like that helps shed light on the breadth of an issue and make it easier for the tuner to solve. Other people may have the same problem or potential for the problem without even knowing it.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        Just my opinion but it's one thing if you are alpha or beta testing and have an isolated issue you need help with. But if you're using public software and having an issue I don't see what the big deal is. Sometimes posting videos like that helps shed light on the breadth of an issue and make it easier for the tuner to solve. Other people may have the same problem or potential for the problem without even knowing it.
        Exactly, so explain to me why this would burn a bridge? The only way someone would think that is if they were told something.

        If I had a problem with your tune and posting a video showing exactly what my issue was, I would expect you to help me fix it.
      1. shiv@vishnu's Avatar
        shiv@vishnu -
        Ridiculous. There are a few thousand Procedes on the road. More than half of them are on 6AT cars. Currently, there are less than 5 people that I know of that are experiencing misfire. There have been more jb engine failures in the last year. And the Procede misfire is front page news? Nice!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu Click here to enlarge
        Ridiculous. There are a few thousand Procedes on the road. More than half of them are on 6AT cars. Currently, there are less than 5 people that I know of that are experiencing misfire. There have been more jb engine failures in the last year. And the Procede misfire is front page news? Nice!
        5 people currently having issues and we happen to have 3 of them? Site must be bigger than I thought.
      1. Centex Hokie's Avatar
        Centex Hokie -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Exactly, so explain to me why this would burn a bridge? The only way someone would think that is if they were told something.

        If I had a problem with your tune and posting a video showing exactly what my issue was, I would expect you to help me fix it.
        I won't speak to the vendor, as my only dealings with them have been positive including helping me fix a problem I made, but I do own a company and would prefer to not have any problems we have published on the internet while we are trying to solve them. The reasons for those are the following:

        1. The problem could not be of our making, but we will get tagged with it. I have no idea if this is a Vishnu problem or another component problem.

        2. The internet lives forever. Once it gets solved, will folks see the actual solution or just see a problem that has since been resolved.

        3. There are no companies that don't have problems. While most folks understand that, there are some who are scared of any issue and seeing this one will scare them off.

        Just one person's opinion of why I wouldn't want this resolved in the front of the world. Take it for what it is worth.