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      This video was sent to us anonymously. The reason for that is Shiv@Vishnu had seen the video and told the owner not to post it and the owner did not for fear of being punished, lack of support, etc. We happened to get this video which shows a V5 automatic misfiring even after the voluntary harness update and several times of cleared adaptations.

      Notice the boost on the fuel gauge which drops to around or below the stock boost level yet the car still misfires. Misfires were also reported at the recent Atco rental by V5 users and other Procede users on BimmerBoost have mentioned issues with misfires as well. This issue is being brought to your attention as tremendous effort has been expended to keep it quiet on other sites. Come to your own conclusion and we hope Vishnu can resolve it.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: Misfires continue to be an issue for the Vishnu Procede even after the V5 update started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        The topic is how V5 and its updates is still misfiring just as good as v3 and v4. almost 2 yrs of the same problem and noone wants to shed light on it..
        Exactly, but their solution of discussing it is to start slinging mud at BMS? Huh?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        I dont even really understand your comment. this isnt a Vs thread, its a specific problem with a specific tune, on specific platform.
        Seems many of these people are more interested in being fanboys. It is specific to a certain tune with a very specific problem.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GarageKeptE92 Click here to enlarge
        tx2 8:42 pm
        (8:42:25 PM): I have proof... text messages between me and qmax
        (8:42:29 PM): google voice ftw
        (8:42:40 PM): all archived in the cloud

        Did you crack that case all by yourself? QMAX posted up the photos of the aftermath on N54tech a few weeks ago.

        http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=17

        Seems like one of those random things as I've never heard of an intake backfire before on these motors with any tuning, no less one that lights off meth and blows the intake up. No one has explained to me how a bog which is the throttle body closing reducing boost can cause an intake backfire. I think more likely something happened during one of the no lift shifts to cause a backfire and then the manifold exploded. Could be an intake valve made contact with a piston and bent or could be after the explosion pieces of the plastic intake were sucked back in and fubared something. IIRC he runs dual M10 nozzles with pure meth.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Exactly, but their solution of discussing it is to start slinging mud at BMS? Huh?
        It originates from the top of the "organization" so you why would you expect any different from the loyal marketeers?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Terry@BMS Click here to enlarge
        Did you crack that case all by yourself? QMAX posted up the photos of the aftermath on N54tech a few weeks ago.

        http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=17

        Seems like one of those random things as I've never heard of an intake backfire before on these motors with any tuning, no less one that lights off meth and blows the intake up. No one has explained to me how a bog which is the throttle body closing reducing boost can cause an intake backfire. I think more likely something happened during one of the no lift shifts to cause a backfire and then the manifold exploded. Could be an intake valve made contact with a piston and bent or could be after the explosion pieces of the plastic intake were sucked back in and fubared something. IIRC he runs dual M10 nozzles with pure meth?
        I remember reading that a while ago, completely forgot about it.
      1. Terry@BMS's Avatar
        Terry@BMS -
        Just for the record if 30 people suddenly report intake manifold explosions on meth feel free to post any videos you'd like on the topic!
      1. alpinedevil335's Avatar
        alpinedevil335 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        typical answer.. someone see's a problem, and then attacks opposing tune. The topic is how V5 and its updates is still misfiring just as good as v3 and v4. almost 2 yrs of the same problem and noone wants to shed light on it..

        1. everything your refering to has been posted, and not hidden, and not taken down
        2. late to the game yet still dominating and improving
        3.jb harness fiasco? how so?

        you make no sense. typical proceder, deflect and defer. taking goods notes from the Shiv I see..



        i dont even really understand your comment. this isnt a Vs thread, its a specific problem with a specific tune, on specific platform.
        Just to add a few things...

        1. Not related to tuning. running nitrous with out taking the proper precautions(meth+race gas) is not BMS's fault
        2. Doing it better than the competition. Not having misfires enforces that.
        3. wtf? links to this fiasco?
      1. Sparky66's Avatar
        Sparky66 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Matt@Camber-Toe Click here to enlarge
        Out of all this, I have some input of my own.

        First, I think Ben (themyst), you are not stupid when it comes to any of this stuff. What does strike me as odd is why in the world would you save the video for people like LM and Terry, when you know LM looks for anything and everything to beat Shiv with?? I'm not condoning his actions or anything but you know better than to share a video like that with two of Shivs biggest competitors and expect it to remain in the background. You know how volatile things get around here.

        Second, I agree with Woplax on his .02. As a business owner if I am working on an issue I would like to keep it under wraps until its resolved. No one remembers the good things but they will always remember the bad things....and people like to jump on the bandwagon and bash a product just because, even if it is determined that the issue is totally unrelated to me.

        Third, Ben, no one would have known it was you in the video until you announced it to us that it was. Thats when all the drama started. You could have remained in the back ground and said nothing, and this thread prolly wouldn't have gone more than a page or two. The video was up, that's it....Shiv didn't know it was you either most likely, but who cares? What is he gonna do, stop giving you free stuff or ban you from e90post? I don't know what the big deal is. He got the video from someone, whether he knows it's from or not, and it's posted.

        Fourth, Sticky, I know Ben personally and if he said Shiv never told him not to post it, he most likely didn't. If the thread was merely announcing that there are still misfire issues even with the V5, there was no need to get in there and mention beforehand that the user is trying to remain anonymous for fear of retribution. If something happens AFTER this, say he gets banned or something, then you can add it to the original post that it was a result of the video being shown. That's just how I would have done it.

        I'm trying to stay neutral on this and give both sides my opinion. Ben you are over reacting about burning bridges here (unless you really are not telling me something), and Sticky I would reword it a little bit until you find out the hard facts that indeed Shiv has him on a short leash.
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by carcars Click here to enlarge
        this sucks more

        are only interests and marketing dollars

        this is not a question to help those involved

        is only one hunting for destroying shin

        I understand that each one gathers what he sows

        but this forum seems to be a developed for this purpose
        Even the BMS faithful followers can see what basically is Sticky's dirty agenda here.
        Putting this up on the main page and misleading everyone into believing:

        1>) "The video was sent to us anonymously".............Bull$#@!, how stupid do you think we are?? Why do you resort to lies to the community rather than tell us the truth, like it was LostMarine or Terry who sent it to you after they put it on Youtube without permission.

        2>)"Shiv@Vishnu had seen the video and told the owner not to post it".............this has "libel" crawling all over it and until you can prove otherwise, show some respect and integrity to the owner of the video (if you have any)and correct the wording, because as it stands now the dirt you are slinging is very much in your face.

        I can name many more serious issues other tuners have had but they never made the front page. It's obvious you seek out any and every issue associated with Vishnu as they are the target of your hate. There may be issues of misfires on some AT Procedes (for the record, I'm AT and I don't have any) but these were being addressed prior to this thread going online.
        Anything else discussed in this thread is garbage relating to your tactics and any traffic here that was created is to listen in on the $#@! fight you created and not the actual issue of the misfires at hand.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky66 Click here to enlarge
        1>) "The video was sent to us anonymously".............Bull$#@!, how stupid do you think we are?? Why do you resort to lies to the community rather than tell us the truth, like it was LostMarine or Terry who sent it to you after they put it on Youtube without permission.
        I think you in particular are pretty stupid as is the owner of the video sending it out to multiple sources and then expecting people to not watch it. He should take responsibility.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky66 Click here to enlarge
        2>)"Shiv@Vishnu had seen the video and told the owner not to post it".............this has "libel" crawling all over it and until you can prove otherwise, show some respect and integrity to the owner of the video (if you have any)and correct the wording, because as it stands now the dirt you are slinging is very much in your face.
        Don't play attorney with me. If it really was wouldn't they have already gone after me? It isn't, it is the truth. Why else did he go crazy trying to get it pulled? Well?

        What dirt am I slinging? The video is what it is. It shows what happened, I can't change that, sorry.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky66 Click here to enlarge
        I can name many more serious issues other tuners have had but they never made the front page.
        Name them. Last I checked all the serious issues were on the front page, ASR scam, AA blowing motor, Powerchip issues, etc. Please, name them.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky66 Click here to enlarge
        It's obvious you seek out any and every issue associated with Vishnu as they are the target of your hate.
        Target of my hate? I don't hate Vishnu. I didn't create their problem, they did.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sparky66 Click here to enlarge
        Anything else discussed in this thread is garbage relating to your tactics and any traffic here that was created is to listen in on the $#@! fight you created and not the actual issue of the misfires at hand.
        Themyst created the garbage by whining for pages but luckily ran away crying. The topic is the misfires the Vishnu Procede V5 has as the video confirms. Why don't you try discussing it as thus far you have provided nothing?
      1. Mineo77's Avatar
        Mineo77 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Seems many of these people are more interested in being fanboys. It is specific to a certain tune with a very specific problem.
        hahhaahaha...whatever that means. Indeed, I agree this is specific to the V5 on AT. Just dont know where the Shiv comments keep coming from...I do NOT have any ties to PROcede or BMS so I dont give a $#@! about that $#@!. But slinging underhanded insults is gay. I have more faith in where the video came from and what he has to say, rather than you. And if you care..i run PROcede in one of my cars and JB3 and the other...No misfires from either.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mineo77 Click here to enlarge
        hahhaahaha...whatever that means. Indeed, I agree this is specific to the V5 on AT. Just dont know where the Shiv comments keep coming from...I do NOT have any ties to PROcede or BMS so I dont give a $#@! about that $#@!. But slinging underhanded insults is gay. I have more faith in where the video came from and what he has to say, rather than you. And if you care..i run PROcede in one of my cars and JB3 and the other...No misfires from either.
        It means some of these guys are making it into the typical BMS vs. Vishnu nonsense when this is clearly a Vishnu issue. That is what it means, get it?

        What Shiv comments are you referring to? Who is slinging insults at you?

        Ok, then listen to what he has to say. He has a V5 tune that misfired after the harness update and cleared adaptations. Notice no one is challenging this? Because it can't be challenged, fact. So I don't see what is complicated for you to understand here.

        Glad you don't have misfires, is it an auto?
      1. Mineo77's Avatar
        Mineo77 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        It means some of these guys are making it into the typical BMS vs. Vishnu nonsense when this is clearly a Vishnu issue. That is what it means, get it?

        What Shiv comments are you referring to? Who is slinging insults at you?

        Ok, then listen to what he has to say. He has a V5 tune that misfired after the harness update and cleared adaptations. Notice no one is challenging this? Because it can't be challenged, fact. So I don't see what is complicated for you to understand here.

        Glad you don't have misfires, is it an auto?
        Nope, I run MT in both. I love the MT, even though folks with the DCT claim it is killer. And i heard of problems with the AT guys with the PROcede...just never got concerned cause it didnt effect me. I hope the PROcede guys figure this $#@! out for the ones running V5..cause you are correct I have not heard this from the JB3. I dont know too much about the JB4 yet.

        I am referring to a few post that target Shiv...which is not the point of the original thread. Terry and Shiv have always treated me well so like to keep them out of it...not like it is there intention to have flaws.

        No harm done here..but i guess this thread has me trolling BB more often so it was effective in that way for me! haha.
      1. WOPALX's Avatar
        WOPALX -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You have said you wish to destroy BMS, if there is proof of this post it up but no one has seen anything.
        Just like there has been no proof that Shiv threatened TheMist.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        everyone keeps chiming on hating and fanboys, but they are the actual fanboys.

        The topic is a tune is causing misfires on automatics, (and the IS/DCT models, but we can save that bomb for later Click here to enlarge )

        if you were true enthusiats, or Shiv was a real man, he would have chimed in and said something informative, like what may be causing it, or what may be fixing it, instead of reading and ignoring.

        If you read other forums, the the "voluntary harness update" only came after a fwe misfire threads, most of which were deletd or locked, and you see that is his first response to one of the few threads that are still active.. i wonder why..

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mineo77 Click here to enlarge
        Nope, I run MT in both. I love the MT, even though folks with the DCT claim it is killer. And i heard of problems with the AT guys with the PROcede...just never got concerned cause it didnt effect me. I hope the PROcede guys figure this $#@! out for the ones running V5..cause you are correct I have not heard this from the JB3. I dont know too much about the JB4 yet.

        I am referring to a few post that target Shiv...which is not the point of the original thread. Terry and Shiv have always treated me well so like to keep them out of it...not like it is there intention to have flaws.

        No harm done here..but i guess this thread has me trolling BB more often so it was effective in that way for me! haha.
        how much boost are you pushing with the tunes, but that doesnt really matter, since your MT. but if you were AT, id say try 16psi and report back
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Mineo77 Click here to enlarge
        Nope, I run MT in both. I love the MT, even though folks with the DCT claim it is killer. And i heard of problems with the AT guys with the PROcede...just never got concerned cause it didnt effect me. I hope the PROcede guys figure this $#@! out for the ones running V5..cause you are correct I have not heard this from the JB3. I dont know too much about the JB4 yet.

        I am referring to a few post that target Shiv...which is not the point of the original thread. Terry and Shiv have always treated me well so like to keep them out of it...not like it is there intention to have flaws.

        No harm done here..but i guess this thread has me trolling BB more often so it was effective in that way for me! haha.
        Well MT, no wonder no issues.

        It's all good, no worries.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        The topic is a tune is causing misfires on automatics, (and the IS/DCT models, but we can save that bomb for later )
        Now I can tell you I'm not going to be tempted to hold back, that is for damn sure.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by WOPALX Click here to enlarge
        Just like there has been no proof that Shiv threatened TheMist.
        There is no proof that he did not.

        Plenty of him demanding the video be deleted for fear of him losing support AFTER Shiv saw it though, right? Click here to enlarge

        He also has asked others to keep issues off the forums.... hmmm Click here to enlarge I think that info will come out later though Click here to enlarge
      1. hipertech's Avatar
        hipertech -
        i feel sorry for those v4/5 users that can't get support from the tuner. good luck on sorting out misfire issue
      1. junglee444's Avatar
        junglee444 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I think you in particular are pretty stupid as is the owner of the video sending it out to multiple sources and then expecting people to not watch it. He should take responsibility.
        Sticky,

        As long as we're claiming things as fact without any proof what-so-ever, I claim you really do know who sent you the video - so who are you protecting? It can technically be only 5 people as per themyst. His quote from the 1st page below. Being the investigative journalist that you are - I'm sure you know who sent you the video. I've seen plenty of threads where you claim you tracked down IP addresses and owners; so I don't see why you can't track the origination of the video. Cough up! Who was it?

        "FYI, that video is of my car misfiring.

        Since Sticky is deciding that I should burn bridges for his own personal gain, I'll set the record straight. The video was sent to two people other than Shiv, LostMarine, and Terry@BMS. Never has Shiv ever instructed me to not post about this, as I was very loud and adamant about the misfire on e90post."
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by junglee444 Click here to enlarge
        As long as we're claiming things as fact without any proof what-so-ever, I claim you really do know who sent you the video - so who are you protecting? It can technically be only 5 people as per themyst. His quote from the 1st page below. Being the investigative journalist that you are - I'm sure you know who sent you the video. I've seen plenty of threads where you claim you tracked down IP addresses and owners; so I don't see why you can't track the origination of the video. Cough up! Who was it?
        There is no IP to trace in an anonymous e-mail. It is not a user logged in whom I can trace or has been recorded. I can tell you it was forwarded to more than one person, so if he thinks just 5 people had it he is very mistaken. I can tell you a hell of a lot have it now.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by hipertech Click here to enlarge
        i feel sorry for those v4/5 users that can't get support from the tuner. good luck on sorting out misfire issue
        What really sucks is they can't even talk about the issues or even show them for fear of getting dropped of support. I feel sorry for them as well.