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    • Stock C6 Z06 vs. ESS (esstuning) VT2-600 supercharged DCT E90 M3

      Here we have a bone stock C6 Z06 vs. a VT2-600 supercharged DCT M3. The M3 gets crushed pretty decisively. Even in the run where the Z06 let off and then got back on it, it clearly shows the power disparity between the two as the Z06 is able to creep back up. So why this result when a DCT Gintani supercharged M3 is able to walk a stock Z06?

      Well, a couple things. The M3 has 3.62 gears. I personally switched back to the stock gears after running 3.62's as they slowed me down up top. Additionally, this clearly shows, yet again, that the Gintani Stage 2 setup is simply much stronger. We respect the M3 owner for going out there and running and we thank the Z06 owner for putting the video up showing how it "really" is in the real world. In the future, the ESS M3 owner should switch back to the stock gears and get meth, unless he enjoys losing to stock cars.


      Here is Drew's Gintani Stage 2+ DCT M3 running stock Z06's:


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Stock C6 Z06 vs. ESS (esstuning) VT2-600 supercharged DCT E90 M3 started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        I'm not saying a Z06 is slow , or mine will kill a Z06 but i can bet you anything that Z06 is not stock , and i will get video of me racing a stock one as well as the same 700+ whp i raced racing a stock Z06 !
        Then we'll see how much truth there is to these video's
        Yes, giant conspiracy and I'm sure your videos will be objective.

        Get out to a track son or run some impressive 60-130's, do something other than type or trying to hate on people doing things you with your vast financial strength can't seem to do.

        I'm glad this gets you this bent out of shape though, you should feel pretty stupid right about now.
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
        I can't wait to see M33's car get stomped by a Gintani car..

        BTW didn't biglare have and 8.5psi setup for bimmerfest? Doesn't his car have gears also?
        I had 7.5 psi for MFest for the track, which the car performed flawlessly on by the way.

        Yes, I have the Dinan 3.62 diff.
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Who knows who runs what pulley as they rarely say. Yes, he did (does?)have a higher boost pulley and yes he does have 3.62's.
        I have and will always be honest with my setup. You are for once correct that I have the 3.62 gears.

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        You are for once correct that I have the 3.62 gears.
        For once huh? Hmm, run Drew and let's see if I'm right again?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        I had 7.5 psi for MFest for the track, which the car performed flawlessly on by the way.

        Yes, I have the Dinan 3.62 diff.
        So what boost is being run now?
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        sorry M33 didnt mean to state something that isnt true.

        PG's words were about you were (not exact but close too) " i think he is one of Romans cousins, and he is also an alcoholic, he drinks at night a lot. So if you see him writing crazy stuff and getting a loud mouth, its probably cause he is drunk".


        None of the above is from my mouth. I dont throw personal attacks online, but that were I had the cousin idea. None of that could be true.
      1. PencilGeek's Avatar
        PencilGeek -
        Sammy I see you've stooped to posting people's PM's to try to clear your conscience. You just put yourself in good company with Sticky -- another reprobate who violates people's privacy and post's their PMs just to try to win an argument.

        You will never be known as a classy or decent guy ever again.

        And for the record, Larry's car beat your by 1/2 second 60-130 -- that's about 3 car lengths over such a short distance. And he had heavier tires. I don't care about your whining and excuses about bald tires and wheel slippage. To quote Sticky and many others here...you lost. It's the only boost-for-boost comparison that anybody has between ESS and Gintani -- and Gintani got smoked by 1/2 second by another car with only 5.5 PSI. Imagine what 7.5 PSI comparison would be like.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        " i think he is one of Romans cousins, and he is also an alcoholic, he drinks at night a lot. So if you see him writing crazy stuff and getting a loud mouth, its probably cause he is drunk".
        Click here to enlarge Man I'm laughing my ass off right now at this.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PencilGeek Click here to enlarge
        Sammy I see you've stooped to posting people's PM's to try to clear your conscience. You just put yourself in good company with Sticky -- another reprobate who violates people's privacy and post's their PMs just to try to win an argument.
        Robert, you realize no one would have known this was something you sent if you did not just confirm it?

        Come on, let's not keep escalating this. I thought we reached an understanding.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PencilGeek Click here to enlarge
        And for the record, Larry's car beat your by 1/2 second 60-130 -- that's about 3 car lengths over such a short distance. And he had heavier tires. I don't care about your whining and excuses about bald tires and wheel slippage. To quote Sticky and many others here...you lost. It's the only boost-for-boost comparison that anybody has between ESS and Gintani -- and Gintani got smoked by 1/2 second by another car with only 5.5 PSI. Imagine what 7.5 PSI comparison would be like.
        Your support for this is... your text?

        Because the real world results seem to support that at the same boost the results would be a wash.

        What we do know so far though is Gintani Stage 2+ setups are stronger, much stronger. Not a surprise although if what you were saying is true why aren't the lower boost ESS setups doing better?
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        For once huh? Hmm, run Drew and let's see if I'm right again?
        Drew and I will run soon for sure! He did not have his car that day. Ask him and he can confirm this.


        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        So what boost is being run now?
        I am running 6.5psi right now and soon to upgrade to the 625 kit.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        I am running 6.5psi right now and soon to upgrade to the 625 kit.
        Why the pulley change?
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Why the pulley change?
        Why not!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        Why not!
        Let me rephrase, why the change to a pulley giving you less boost after you already were running higher boost?
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        At MFest it was a track setup only. After MFest it was back to my normal kit. Now that I'm in SD I want the 625 kit.

        See, it really is not that hard to communicate in a civilized manner. You don't have to be such an ass all the time. Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        At MFest it was a track setup only. After MFest it was back to my normal kit. Now that I'm in SD I want the 625 kit.

        See, it really is not that hard to communicate in a civilized manner. You don't have to be such an ass all the time. Click here to enlarge
        First of all, I want you to understand something and I want you to understand it very clearly. You started insulting me in this thread, ok? I never said anything about you only regarding the claimed performance by ESS. You then took this as an attack on you. If you don't believe me, read the thread.

        Secondly, I do not understand why you would run a higher boost pulley successfully as you claim on the track but then revert to a different pulley afterwards. Why? Why not keep it?
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        First of all, I want you to understand something and I want you to understand it very clearly. You started insulting me in this thread, ok? I never said anything about you only regarding the claimed performance by ESS. You then took this as an attack on you. If you don't believe me, read the thread.

        Secondly, I do not understand why you would run a higher boost pulley successfully as you claim on the track but then revert to a different pulley afterwards. Why? Why not keep it?
        My comment is for more than just this thread alone and you know what I'm talkin about!

        As for MFest, ESS was onsite and they hooked it up for the track. Why I did not keep it is simple, I did not pay for it so back to my normal kit.
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by PencilGeek Click here to enlarge
        Sammy I see you've stooped to posting people's PM's to try to clear your conscience. You just put yourself in good company with Sticky -- another reprobate who violates people's privacy and post's their PMs just to try to win an argument.

        You will never be known as a classy or decent guy ever again.

        And for the record, Larry's car beat your by 1/2 second 60-130 -- that's about 3 car lengths over such a short distance. And he had heavier tires. I don't care about your whining and excuses about bald tires and wheel slippage. To quote Sticky and many others here...you lost. It's the only boost-for-boost comparison that anybody has between ESS and Gintani -- and Gintani got smoked by 1/2 second by another car with only 5.5 PSI. Imagine what 7.5 PSI comparison would be like.
        Love you too PG. You $#@!ed me over for the last time. I don't care who's company I'm in as long as it is not yours. You have back stabbed an $#@!ed over enough people. You act like a friend then blast people online and try and make them look bad. You lack character. I hope no one else has to fall for it. And I don't care about the time. It's doesn't make a difference. People saw the bald tires. Your words have no effect. All this is insignificant bickering. Oh, happy hanukkah !
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by biglare Click here to enlarge
        My comment is for more than just this thread alone and you know what I'm talkin about!

        As for MFest, ESS was onsite and they hooked it up for the track. Why I did not keep it is simple, I did not pay for it so back to my normal kit.
        Ok, so I guess what I should ask is do you intend to run this pulley?
      1. biglare's Avatar
        biglare -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Ok, so I guess what I should ask is do you intend to run this pulley?
        I want to upgrade to the 625 kit it, and includes a 7.5psi pulley.