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    • Stock C6 Z06 vs. ESS (esstuning) VT2-600 supercharged DCT E90 M3

      Here we have a bone stock C6 Z06 vs. a VT2-600 supercharged DCT M3. The M3 gets crushed pretty decisively. Even in the run where the Z06 let off and then got back on it, it clearly shows the power disparity between the two as the Z06 is able to creep back up. So why this result when a DCT Gintani supercharged M3 is able to walk a stock Z06?

      Well, a couple things. The M3 has 3.62 gears. I personally switched back to the stock gears after running 3.62's as they slowed me down up top. Additionally, this clearly shows, yet again, that the Gintani Stage 2 setup is simply much stronger. We respect the M3 owner for going out there and running and we thank the Z06 owner for putting the video up showing how it "really" is in the real world. In the future, the ESS M3 owner should switch back to the stock gears and get meth, unless he enjoys losing to stock cars.


      Here is Drew's Gintani Stage 2+ DCT M3 running stock Z06's:

      This article was originally published in forum thread: Stock C6 Z06 vs. ESS (esstuning) VT2-600 supercharged DCT E90 M3 started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 209 Comments
      1. M3_WC's Avatar
        M3_WC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        I personally think equally boosted M's the ESS kit is faster .....
        Care to share your technical expertise as to why you think two kits running the same boost would not be neck and neck in a heads up battle.
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Where the hell do you get off insulting our members when you have been probably the most retarded ESS proponent in existence. The kit did what it did, why is this so hard for you to swallow? You swallow everything Roman gives you without thinking for yourself.

        Aren't your 60-130 times pretty damn slow as well? Don't insult Mspired, I don't know where the hell you get off doing that considering he knows far more about this than you do and is yet another person who has a car that actually makes the power he is claiming.
        Your members ??? You prick he insulted me first !
        My numbers are cool with me ...
        It's funny how all of you talk $#@! and none of you have a car that runs
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        Your members ??? You prick he insulted me first !
        My numbers are cool with me ...
        It's funny how all of you talk $#@! and none of you have a car that runs
        All talk $#@! yet none have a car that runs? I know you struggle with English, yet the only person here having their motor built would seem to be me and possibly Eugene? Everyone else has a car that would beat yours down. Plus, the gap is only going to get larger as the built motor cars get out there. So really, with 8.3 second 60-130's you should probably shhhh. If you are happy with that performance, good for you, I wouldn't be. I'm not even happy with 130 traps., I like to be the best. That involves building the motor, wonder why this is so confusing for you? If you are content to be below average and have no patience, good for you.

        He didn't insult you, he called you annoying, which you are. He didn't basically call you a $#@! like you did to him.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M3_WC Click here to enlarge
        Care to share your technical expertise as to why you think two kits running the same boost would not be neck and neck in a heads up battle.
        He has no technical knowledge, he pulled that out of his ass as this thread shows. What he should do is apologize and say he was wrong having a lot to learn.
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DLSJ5 Click here to enlarge
        What's wrong with yours? I heard it had issues? Why did you get a new one? Why did you sell your old kit? Click here to enlarge

        It's getting some work done.
        i sold mine cause i liked the stance of the coupe & the same kit that was in my sedan is in my coupe just painted the manifold Click here to enlarge ... no issues besides boost leak which is not an issue .......
        whats being done to your car bruh ??? roll cage ? subframe ?
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        All talk $#@! yet none have a car that runs? I know you struggle with English, yet the only person here having their motor built would seem to be me and possibly Eugene? Everyone else has a car that would beat yours down. Plus, the gap is only going to get larger as the built motor cars get out there. So really, with 8.3 second 60-130's you should probably shhhh. If you are happy with that performance, good for you, I wouldn't be. I'm not even happy with 130 traps., I like to be the best. That involves building the motor, wonder why this is so confusing for you? If you are content to be below average and have no patience, good for you.

        He didn't insult you, he called you annoying, which you are. He didn't basically call you a $#@! like you did to him.
        i do pretty good financially with my broken engrish.
        and that 8.3 was with wheel spin in 3rd and 4th but i could care less to explain myself to you !


      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        i do pretty good financially with my broken engrish.
        and that 8.3 was with wheel spin in 3rd and 4th but i could care less to explain myself to you !


        I could care less how you do financially. That has what to do with your entire past history of misplaced and erroneous comments? You should do less typing.

        Step up and admit the comments you made were wrong and out of place.
      1. DD GT3 RD's Avatar
        DD GT3 RD -
        I believe M33 is Romans cousin or one of the ESS owners to my knowledge. Could be incorrect info, but i think it is correct.

        M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.

        If you have only had vanilla ice cream, how can you debate it is better than chocolate ice cream without ever having tried chocolate?

        If I had the money to spend I would buy both kits with same boost, get 2 cars, dyno them before, same day, time and dyno. Then do the same after the install. Then take them to the strip and run 60-130 same date and time. Then track them and keep temps logged etc...I bet they would be within .1 second. Damn, I need more money! ooo...i saw a red GT2 in front of me today...looks amazing! money! money! money!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.
        Exactly correct and exactly how I feel

        The kit is great but comments like one being superior than the other in performance at the same boost are exactly what the problem is. If you try and correct that where it originated Roman gets you banned. People then start to believe it and we get hurt feelings like M33 and biglare.

        The kit is quality, but let's not overestimate based on incorrect comments that have been written as they don't hold up in the real world. That is all, don't see the big deal.
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DD GT3 RD Click here to enlarge
        I believe M33 is Romans cousin or one of the ESS owners to my knowledge. Could be incorrect info, but i think it is correct.

        M33 you shouldnt feel that sticky is attacking ESS's quality. They think they make a great product. He and others only feel they make like their kit is the end all numero uno and that it can beat or is as fast as a Gintani kit that runs more boost. Which in my eyes is ridiculous as well and been provem wrong. And there is nothing wrong with that, no reason 7psi should be faster than 9psi. They arent even saying Gintani is better. Im sure when these kits are put head to head with the same boost it will be a draw. Then people cant start debating some other reason why one is better than the other. Stupidity.

        If you have only had vanilla ice cream, how can you debate it is better than chocolate ice cream without ever having tried chocolate?

        If I had the money to spend I would buy both kits with same boost, get 2 cars, dyno them before, same day, time and dyno. Then do the same after the install. Then take them to the strip and run 60-130 same date and time. Then track them and keep temps logged etc...I bet they would be within .1 second. Damn, I need more money! ooo...i saw a red GT2 in front of me today...looks amazing! money! money! money!
        Unfortunately I'm not a part owner of ESS Click here to enlarge wouldn't mind the extra funds ...
        And I'm not related to Roman . Just clear a few things up .

        I just don't like how everyone doesn't compare apples to apples , especially Sticky , here he make a lame comment on my 8.3 run with 2 shifts compared to another run 7.8 1 shift , and he has the balls to call Me an idiot ( Romans third cousin ) which he makes himself look like a bigger idiot cause if he apply'd some math he would see they are at par ( but I could care less cause i'll clock my own time with one shift ) ...

        stinky how many actual miles have you put on you car ? Looks like it's been down more than it's been on the up and up Click here to enlarge
        I also have yet to see some figures of a gintani car running a 60-130 with out Meth and equal boost !!!
        stinky do me a favor get a gintani car with the same fuel and boost as mine run a better time and I will do your Mommy the favor of fixing your car for her Click here to enlarge
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        stinky has no class like his car !!
        Black piece of $#@! , don't you know your car represents you and your ride say's it all no guts .... Literally .......
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        I just don't like how everyone doesn't compare apples to apples , especially Sticky , here he make a lame comment on my 8.3 run with 2 shifts compared to another run 7.8 1 shift , and he has the balls to call Me an idiot ( Romans third cousin ) which he makes himself look like a bigger idiot cause if he apply'd some math he would see they are at par ( but I could care less cause i'll clock my own time with one shift ) ...
        I'm trying to decipher this. Your car ran what it ran, you are in the 8's and clearly you would struggle with a stock Z06 as well. No getting around this...

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        stinky how many actual miles have you put on you car ? Looks like it's been down more than it's been on the up and up
        Pretty creative the way you changed the c to an n there. I better watch my step with such a word smith at work.

        How many miles? I don't know, but does it matter really? I care about performance and that is what my car is being built for. The car is a toy for me, nothing more. I don't need it as a daily driver and can afford to have more than one car so maybe that is why you ESS guys focus on my build time? Since you need your car so desperately and can not afford to take the time to build it into something worthy of discussion.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        I also have yet to see some figures of a gintani car running a 60-130 with out Meth and equal boost !!!
        Uh, and? Up your boost and run meth so you can put up some numbers that are actually impressive.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        stinky do me a favor get a gintani car with the same fuel and boost as mine run a better time and I will do your Mommy the favor of fixing your car for her
        Heh, mom jokes? Haha, wow. Please, just quit with trying to type insults as they just come out pretty stupid from you. You want me to get you a kit with the same fuel and boost? Why don't you up your boost or is the fuel going to cut on you again? Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        stinky has no class like his car !!
        Black piece of $#@! , don't you know your car represents you and your ride say's it all no guts .... Literally .......
        Classy.
      1. JonMartin's Avatar
        JonMartin -
        I can't wait to see M33's car get stomped by a Gintani car..

        BTW didn't biglare have and 8.5psi setup for bimmerfest? Doesn't his car have gears also?
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Classy.
        it get classier Click here to enlarge
        People here you have a 24 year old who still lives with his parents & mowed the lawn quit a few times as well as took out the trash on command just so mommy and daddy can buy him this

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        to only achieve this
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        I Got Pubic Hair older than you , you little twerp Click here to enlarge

        Doesn't PG's car put down more power ?Click here to enlarge so much for being the best Click here to enlarge
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        I'm not saying a Z06 is slow , or mine will kill a Z06 but i can bet you anything that Z06 is not stock , and i will get video of me racing a stock one as well as the same 700+ whp i raced racing a stock Z06 !
        Then we'll see how much truth there is to these video's
      1. JonMartin's Avatar
        JonMartin -
        And you will just get walked like this car did so please do so we can all have a laugh...
      1. M33's Avatar
        M33 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
        And you will just get walked like this car did so please do so we can all have a laugh...
        I'm all about laughs Click here to enlarge that's why i keep Click here to enlargeClick here to enlargeat Stinky's Car .....
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JonMartin Click here to enlarge
        I can't wait to see M33's car get stomped by a Gintani car..

        BTW didn't biglare have and 8.5psi setup for bimmerfest? Doesn't his car have gears also?
        Who knows who runs what pulley as they rarely say. Yes, he did (does?)have a higher boost pulley and yes he does have 3.62's.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by M33 Click here to enlarge
        it get classier Click here to enlarge
        People here you have a 24 year old who still lives with his parents & mowed the lawn quit a few times as well as took out the trash on command just so mommy and daddy can buy him this

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        to only achieve this
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        I Got Pubic Hair older than you , you little twerp Click here to enlarge

        Doesn't PG's car put down more power ?Click here to enlarge so much for being the best Click here to enlarge
        First of all, I will be 27 on Saturday and secondly I live on my own in a fairly nice area in a fairly nice home. Thank you for your concern though in your usual classy fashion, not like you would just try to randomly attack a person instead of the issue.

        Secondly:

        Here is my dyno on my old setup:

        Click here to enlarge

        BTW, that would be the first car to ever crack 130 mph in the 1/4 for the E9X. What does your car run again? Oh, that's right, you are scared of the track and stick to typing. For the record, people didn't call you Roman's cousin, they called you Roman's retarded 3rd cousin.

        You have pubic hair older than me? Might want to shave.