• AutoCar Video Review: E92 M3 vs. Audi RS5

      Here is yet another RS5 vs. E92 M3 comparison vid, this time by AutoCar. It is a better vid than the AutoExpress video comparison but still is typically European where it is subjective with no real data for support. The video concludes with the reviewer stating the RS5 is just a bit quicker and more powerful, which, well, is kind of stupid as it is just based on his opinion. He seems to be going by the crank ratings which mean nothing. The RS5 is heavier and routes the power to all 4 wheels so it is less efficient, putting less to the ground where it counts. Every comparison with real data has shown the M3 to be the faster car, which it is. Basically, this comparison is useless as most of AutoCar's comparison's are.

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        You cant bring back deleted post what the hell are you doing.
        Pretty sure I just did Click here to enlarge So why call me a liar? You tried to delete it, no big deal.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        You are naming sedans those are other cars.
        I don't understand what you mean here.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        You are missing the point there was no 2 door 4 seater coupe at the time comparable to an m3. The only car was the Carrera
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        You are missing the point there was no 2 door 4 seater coupe at the time comparable to an m3. The only car was the Carrera
        At which time are you referring to, which generation?

        Because the E36 and E9X are not just coupes, and the carrera really isn't a true 4 seater. There are several other 2 door 4 seat performance coupes though and have been throughout M3 production history.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        At which time are you referring to, which generation?

        Because the E36 and E9X are not just coupes, and the carrera really isn't a true 4 seater. There are several other 2 door 4 seat performance coupes though and have been throughout M3 production history.
        You are worst than a $#@! you keep making up excuses. Why is the Carrera not a four seater. There is no use talking to you. You twist $#@! to you convenience I swear its like arguing with a $#@!. What other coupe? there is NONE. No true competitors.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        You are worst than a $#@! you keep making up excuses. Why is the Carrera not a four seater. There is no use talking to you. You twist $#@! to you convenience I swear its like arguing with a $#@!. What other coupe? there is NONE. No true competitors.
        The Carrera is not a 4 seater because it is a 2+2. Why do you keep getting mad at me for you not knowing basics?

        Why even get angry? It isn't a big deal, just speak normally like you usually do. I'm not trying to anger you so no need to get emotional.

        The 190E was the E30 M3 competition.

        The B5 S4 was an answer to the E36 M3. It was not offered in coupe form obviously.

        The E46 M3 was not the only 2 door 4 seat performance coupe. The SVT Cobra, Camaro SS and CLK 55 being others so the M3 isn't really alone in that "niche."

        Obviously the IS-F, C63, and RS4/RS5 are the E9X competition, not the GT3 or Corvette C6.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        The Carrera is not a 4 seater because it is a 2+2. Why do you keep getting mad at me for you not knowing basics?

        Why even get angry? It isn't a big deal, just speak normally like you usually do. I'm not trying to anger you so no need to get emotional.

        The 190E was the E30 M3 competition.

        The B5 S4 was an answer to the E36 M3. It was not offered in coupe form obviously.

        The E46 M3 was not the only 2 door 4 seat performance coupe. The SVT Cobra, Camaro SS and CLK 55 being others so the M3 isn't really alone in that "niche."

        Obviously the IS-F, C63, and RS4/RS5 are the E9X competition, not the GT3 or Corvette C6.
        Not knowing the basics. 2+2 = 4 seats so it seats four and obviously a four seater coupe LOL

        SVT cobra and Camaro SS hahaha so a M3 is more of a camaro and mustang competitor ok got it. It lost the latest comparo to the Mustang GT.

        Yep the m3 cant be compared to an GT3 its miles ahead, and obviously, obviously its not even a match for the Carrera. Hell not even a match for the 2011 Mustang GT hmm

        So what does the m3 has to offer that no other car on the market can? Nothing. The M3 is not special in any way.

        What was the e92 M3 aimed at ?
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        I am glad you came to your senses and finally accepted that the M3 is a niche and nothing really special.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        What car IS special?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        Not knowing the basics. 2+2 = 4 seats so it seats four and obviously a four seater coupe LOL
        a 2 + 2 is not a true 4 seater, but is referred to a 2 + 2 for a reason. It is very easy to understand why the Carrera is specifically listed this way.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        SVT cobra and Camaro SS hahaha so a M3 is more of a camaro and mustang competitor ok got it. It lost the latest comparo to the Mustang GT.
        You mentioned 4 seat performance coupes, that is what they are. The M3 is a sport sedan competitor, hopefully you get it eventually as everyone else did a long time ago.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        Yep the m3 cant be compared to an GT3 its miles ahead, and obviously, obviously its not even a match for the Carrera. Hell not even a match for the 2011 Mustang GT hmm
        The GT3 is a sports car for over 100k, it better be better. It is a better car than the GTR as well. Let me guess, it's pathetic because it doesn't beat the GTR in a straight line? It is a better drivers car, just like the M3 is a better drivers car than the Mustang GT. If you don't get it, you never will. Do you even have any of these cars?

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        So what does the m3 has to offer that no other car on the market can? Nothing. The M3 is not special in any way.
        The option of a dual clutch or 6 speed which no one else offers in that class, something the GTR is missing as well. Lowest weight in its class Click here to enlarge Best balance in its class. The best engineered motor in its class. The highest redline in its class. Only car in its class to come in coupe, sedan, and convertible.

        The M3 offers plenty, which is why it is consistently the benchmark, it is the car all others strive to equal. It is the best at what it does. You sit there and talk about the GTR, who cares? I can actually have either car and I choose the M3, as do many the world over. It represents far more than just performance figures. It never has been the fastest car, it never will be, what it is the last true M masterpiece as everything else now goes to turbo motors which no doubt makes the uneducated, inexperienced, and those evaluating cars based solely on numbers, like yourself, happy.

        Now go tell those GT3 owners they are idiots for not buying a turbo or that Porsche missed the mark because they should be competing with the ZR-1. You have no idea what you are talking about, you can't even figure out what cars the M3 competes with.
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        What car IS special?
        The GTR apparently Click here to enlarge
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
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        fundahl -
        Just playin Sticky. Click here to enlarge
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        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        You didn't link right but I saw what you were referring to.

        Yes, if I was going to do what I am dong it sure would be easier with a GTR. The aftermarket does not determine what car is best though or somehow mitigate what a car represents in stock form.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        In stock form the GTR blows the M3 out of the water.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        In stock form the GTR blows the M3 out of the water.
        Yep, and?
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Yep, and?
        A Serrano pepper has more vitamin C than the average citrus fruit.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SlicktopTTZ Click here to enlarge
        A Serrano pepper has more vitamin C than the average citrus fruit.
        lmao