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    • Discovery Automotive destroys customer's car along with what was left of their reputation

      Take this as a warning BMW enthusiasts. Discovery Automotive was able to create a good reputation for themselves on M5board where they profited from exposure in cleaning up RMS mistakes. Shadowman, Bill of Discovery Automotive, was able to force his way into the lucrative high-end BMW tuning scene through the easiest route available, which is taking advantage of M5 owners. To be honest, we fell for this as well seeing Discovery Automotive take great care in posting their builds to give the appearance of a high end shop only for horror stories to start to surface.

      What happened in this particular instance is that Bill took a car that was under his care, a twin turbo Ford GT, and went out to a spot known to the locals as a "drag strip" and abused the car resulting in losing control and wrecking it. Bill, William E. Knobloch, would begin to distort the truth attempting to skirt responsibility for what happened. What happened was he behaved irresponsibly with an immensely powerful vehicle that did not belong to him and wrecked it playing around like some teenager who couldn't control himself. Feel free to read the whole story in quotes below.

      Take this as a warning when sending your car to a tuner or who you are using as your tuner. This isn't the only tuner who has behaved irresponsibly with a car under their care. How many of them go out under the guise of "testing" only to race around with someone else's property? Well, at least we all know that Discovery Automotive is one tuner BMW fans can cross off the list, permanently.






      This article was originally published in forum thread: Discovery Automotive strikes again started by fstop7 View original post
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      1. kalis's Avatar
        kalis -


        lol.. Bills good enough that this dude backs him.

        Next.. are you guys going to start dumping on Protomotive since they use pole barns on their property to build cars at? Ever look into $#@! that has gone wrong there.. or just Bill?
      1. fstop7's Avatar
        fstop7 -
        Seriously?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by fstop7 Click here to enlarge
        Seriously?
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kalis Click here to enlarge
        lol.. Bills good enough that this dude backs him.
        You actually went the length of forcing Ken Block to an uncomfortable "shout out" to this piece of trash?

        Why are you going so far out of your way to defend this parasite with ridiculous nonsense? Did you not always wear a helmet?
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Some of these garbage bags remind of girls that fall in love with guys on death row and write to them in prison.
      1. BrenM3's Avatar
        BrenM3 -
        that video after a few days of silence is priceless
      1. kalis's Avatar
        kalis -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        You actually went the length of forcing Ken Block to an uncomfortable "shout out" to this piece of trash?

        Why are you going so far out of your way to defend this parasite with ridiculous nonsense? Did you not always wear a helmet?
        I didn't have to go out of my way.... He's a homie. Loved the M5 when he rode in it.

        As far as defending some one... well it takes more honor in defending someone that doesn't deserve than $#@!ting on them because of rumor. Remember that when the "second" chapter of this escapade comes to light.

        You do realize you haven't really seen any of the emails between Shadowman and Ray... So you are basing your ENTIRE opinion on second and third party $#@!, Nor have you seen the police investigation of the crash.... reason for the crash... and witness statements.

        I have a pretty strong feeling that when all this comes to life... you will be bummed this thread ever existed.
      1. THATDONFC's Avatar
        THATDONFC -
        That video was retarded. lol
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kalis Click here to enlarge
        As far as defending some one... well it takes more honor in defending someone that doesn't deserve than $#@!ting on them because of rumor.
        What rumor? No one is basing their opinion on a rumor, we saw the result of what happened.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kalis Click here to enlarge
        o you are basing your ENTIRE opinion on second and third party $#@!
        The comments we are basing them on are largely from Ray himself. So he just made his own statements up? Seriously, do you have trouble with reading comprehension? It is all in the first and second post.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by kalis Click here to enlarge
        I have a pretty strong feeling that when all this comes to life... you will be bummed this thread ever existed.
        I have a pretty strong feeling no one should ever send a car to uninsured guy referring to car's as "gals" who is too big of a chicken$#@! to take any responsibility for his actions.
      1. Powerchip's Avatar
        Powerchip -
        Powerchip had the misfortune of dealing with Bill Knobloch and Discovery Automotive for a couple of years.

        He switched from us to Jim Conforti, and after he switched we were never paid for any work that remain unpaid prior to the switch.

        'Shadowman' still owes us for seven unpaid invoices, but we were never able to find the legal entity for 'Discovery Automotive', and he just stopped answering his phone or replying to emails so we just assumed he wasnt trading any longer. I was really suprised when I saw the Ford crash because I didnt know he was still operating.

        When I saw this on the weekend, I could only think of shadowman and his 'gals' that he 'massages' so 'she' can perform better

        scoobyblog.com/2007-01-04/vintage-subaru-ad-1973-the-subaru-gl-coupe
      1. allblackm3's Avatar
        allblackm3 -
        this is absolutely insane
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by allblackm3 Click here to enlarge
        this is absolutely insane
        A little late to the party but yes, insane.
      1. EMC's Avatar
        EMC -
        Back in business....like it never happened! Click here to enlarge
      1. rt turbo's Avatar
        rt turbo -
        Gees, I remember this and it still boggles my mind how people could be this way.

        This is reminiscent of Mert. Fvck many over, go out of business, wait some time, let weak minds forget, and new minds turn a new shoulder, and come back in the lime light.
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Bill Noballs is like a STD that has no known cure.
      1. Twinturbom3's Avatar
        Twinturbom3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rt turbo Click here to enlarge
        Gees, I remember this and it still boggles my mind how people could be this way.

        This is reminiscent of Mert. Fvck many over, go out of business, wait some time, let weak minds forget, and new minds turn a new shoulder, and come back in the lime light.
        Never wrecked a car, never ripped a customer.

        But now, I want f...k you as you are an idiot talking about me.

        Go and find 1 old customer of mine which was f...k as per your description.
      1. rt turbo's Avatar
        rt turbo -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Twinturbom3 Click here to enlarge
        Never wrecked a car, never ripped a customer.

        But now, I want f...k you as you are an idiot talking about me.

        Go and find 1 old customer of mine which was f...k as per your description.
        Ha ha. Now Mert has never $#@!ed anyone in the past. Wow how time forgets. {roll eyes}
      1. Twinturbom3's Avatar
        Twinturbom3 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by rt turbo Click here to enlarge
        Ha ha. Now Mert has never $#@!ed anyone in the past. Wow how time forgets. {roll eyes}
        Do me a favor and bring 1 person which I ve ripped. Please do it rather than talking BS.

        BTW, your "60-130 mph < 6 s" goal belongs to my E36 M3 Euro Twin Turbo, twin GT35R. Keep on jealousing.

        Stop being a keyboard herı, just go and work on your M3, and make it fast.
      1. daytonaM3's Avatar
        daytonaM3 -
        http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread/t-168822.html

        http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...=da+motorsport Rene Netherlands


        There are a lot more like Blackmamba(BF) but you are not worth the time searching it,this is also my last post to you .
      1. BigM62's Avatar
        BigM62 -
        Mert, really you are forgeting alot lately. I remember reading were you admitted you f**ked up several customers and that you were sorry, blah-blah-blah, and you were turning over a new stone and would seek the straight and norrow path. Just because you apoligized, does not make your past go away.